Re: [Critical-Realism] Critical Realist Philosophy of Information

["Mervyn Hartwig" <mh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Jose-Carlos

It's important to understand that Dave sometimes sheds more fog on this list
than light. CR does not abstract from meaning - it *sets out from* common
understandings of what people are doing in their activities. If you had to
say what it is in 3 words it's a philosohy of praxis. On the philosophy of
meta-Reality, which in my view constitutes a single system with CR, the
world itself is meaningful ('enchanted').

I hope you don't mind my asking, but are you related to *the* Jose Carlos
Mariategui? 

Mervyn 
 
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:critical-realism-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jose-Carlos Mariategui
Sent: 14 December 2007 08:48
To: Continuation of the Spoon Bhaskar List
Subject: Re: [Critical-Realism] Critical Realist Philosophy of Information

dear Dave:

Yes, from a CR perspective, I believe you are right in trying to  
understand 'information' in complete abstraction from 'meaning', but  
in that sense starting from Shannon we would need to analyze much part  
of the studies on AI that had been trying for more than 50 years now  
to give a logico-mathematical perspective to meaning.

The issue with Shannon is that I believe, from what I read by him, he  
is then trying to abstract his engineering perspective to more complex  
issues that deal with society and the individual, and that, as in the  
case of many other AI researchers, have failed to give an  
understanding on 'meaning'.

Jose-Carlos



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