Re: [Critical-Realism] Side note on clear writing and Bourdieu

["Louis Irwin" <louisirwin9@xxxxxxx>]

Bill,

I just searched Amazon U.S under both "Mervyn Hartwig" and "Dictionary of
Critical Realism", but only the hardbound erdition for $145 comes up.  Can
you send me a link to where you see it on Amazon, please?  Thanks,

Louis Irwin 

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Amazon does indeed have the paperback for $41.95. Other dealers listed on
Amazon have it as low as $35.

Bill Hord



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Hi Louis

 

Here are the relevant paras:

 

ont/de-ont (Gr. ont-, being + de-, but [with opposing force]). Onts are
positive, de-onts or absences negative, existences or presences within the
class of ontics (objects of specific epistemic enquiries) within ontology
(see epistemology etc.); or, onts are beings, de-onts non-beings. We thus
have the theorems ontology > ontics > onts, and ontology > ontics > de-onts.
Ontics is a more inclusive class than onts or de-onts because it embraces
both. De-onts include never anywhere existences (phlogiston), the simply
absent (the dead), negative presences (memory, the past and outside), gulfs,
splits and voids. 

 

[snip]

 

The term de-ont can be interpreted as calling attention to the double
meaning (equivocity) of the Greek words dein (vb.) and deon (n.) on which
deontology (the study of moral duty) is formed: (1) to bind, fasten, fetter;
and (2) to want, lack, need. These two meanings come together in the pivotal
cr concept of absence (de-ont) as constraint (fetter) and as lack or
ill-being (need), thereby unifying ethics with the theory of being. Hence
Bhaskar sometimes writes de-ontology (P: 113).

 

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There is a paperback, which sells for £22 here, presumably about $50 US.

 

I too think the OED is great (I go to bed with it under my pillow), but not
so great re some philosophical concepts, e.g. eudaimonia, which Tobin tells
us is not even in its mega version (in that form), even though it's a common
philosophical term. Also it's somewhat establishment in its perspectives -
can be a bit like relying on the BBC World Service to find out what's going
on in Venezuela. You won't find many of Marx's concepts in it, e.g. - at any
rate in the shorter version I've got.

 

 

Mervyn 

 

 

 

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Sent: 04 December 2007 01:44
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Mervyn,

 

I just checked once again with Amazon U.S., which currently sells the

Dictionary for $145 (!!), so don't assume those of us on this side of the

Atlantic have ready access to the dictionary.  Could you provide the entry,

please?  I'm curious to see how the etymology of "deontology", which derives

from the Greek "deon", meaning duty, links up with the etymologoy of

"ontology", which derives from the Greek "onto", meaning being.  (I'm afraid

I too am an admirer of the OED, whose merits Tobin so nicely laid out.)

 

Louis

 

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