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Re: BHA: Re: RE: Note re: Howard re: Ronny



Hi Marsh,

Volume I of Jeffrey Alexander's "Theoretical Logic in Sociology" (4 vols)
provides a good critique of positivism in sociology -- title of this
volume: "Positivism, Presuppositions, and Current
Controversies."   Alexander was a student of Talcott Parsons, and sought to
develop Parsons' philosophical stance called "analytical realism."   I have
always believed that analytical realism had some serious philosophical
weaknesses, but it can be read as a step in the direction of CR.

Regards,

Dick

At 03:06 PM 05/16/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Dear Marsh,
I am not sue if it is of any interest to you but Mirowski (Mirowski P (1987)
"The Philosophical Bases of Institutional Economics", Journal of Economic
Issues, XXI(3), 1001-1038) provides a good summary and criticism of
positivism (Cartesian tradition and neoclassical economic theory are the
terms he uses) form the economics point of view. I hope you will find it
useful.

kind regards

Paschalis Arvanitidis
University of Aberdeen


----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Feldman" <marsh@xxxxxxx> To: <bhaskar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: BHA: RE: Note re: Howard re: Ronny


> Hi all, > > Could someone provide references for Ellis' work? And Caroline Lierse? > > Also, I'm looking for a good summary of criticisms of positivism. I'm aware > of many individual ones (by Bhaskar, Hacking, and others) as well as the > classic "anti-positivist" work (Quine, Kuhn, Feyerabend) that attacks > positivist principles. What I'm looking for is more of an overview and > chronology. Does anyone out there know of one? > > Marsh Feldman > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-bhaskar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:owner-bhaskar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ruth Groff > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:06 AM > > To: bhaskar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: BHA: Note re: Howard re: Ronny > > > > > > Hi Howard, > > > > I hope that Ronny will say more -- and I hope on-list, because > > I'm interested in the Aristotelian underground too! - but I just > > wanted to chime in for a second. > > > > The Harre and Madden book is not that widely engaged in establishment > > >literature either, is it? > > > > My sense is that it registers on the radar both more and > > differently than Bhaskar's books. > > > > > > But actually, rather than the history of philosophy > > >stuff, I'm more immediately interested in your impression of contemporary > > >philosophers of science in their engagement with causal realism. Why has > > >so little been made of the issue of ontological stratification? My guess > > >is because mainstream realisms have emerged from the soil of Quine and > > >Putnam. > > > > Can you say more about how Quine fits here? I would fit him into > > the narrative very differently. > > > > > > >Another way of asking this is how central has the critique of Hume > > >been to the mainstream evolution of scientific realism? > > > > > > Ellis and Caroline Lierse, at least, do go at Hume directly. Can > > you say some more about exactly what you see being captured by > > the term "ontological stratification" that you think is not > > captured by those two, anyway? > > > > I think it would be great to do some common reading of some of the > > >references you mention. > > > > I would love to do this. Absolutely. > > > > Ruth > > > > > > > > --- from list bhaskar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --- > > > > > > --- from list bhaskar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---



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