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RE: Re: BHA: Re: Critical Realism for Natural Sciences



Marko

Thanks agian.

I am reading but I found the text in the links a little bit cumbersome.

A small question though ;

what is in between a twister (tornados )?  Is it a vacuum and low scale thermo energy? Is it why objects sucked in turns out in matter instead of what they were? Now imagine that you were watching a tornado moving in a specific direction on the earth surface and you were chasing the tornado at the same speed  below the earth surface ?

Marko Will you  be observing the same phenomenon like those people above the earth surface? I thought that in space this will imply what goes in a twister comes out at the other side (blackhole)  which makes it even more interesting in a thermo dynamic terms and the state of evolution matter.

Thermo dynamic theory in the evolution of the universe is pulsable in relation to specific gravity and body masses.



Bwanika.


Marko Beljac <beljac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Bwanika,
>
>The theory of evolution is objectively correct. If we take the weak anthropic principle, which asserts that the laws of physics must be of such a nature to enable us to evolve and exist, it follows then that every theory of the origin of the universe, including the Hartle-Hawking theory, cannot violate the weak anthropic principle therefore it cannot contradict Darwin. Of course if evolution is a mere social construction then of course anything goes but thankfully science is not a social construction!
>
>Also you should be careful and not confuse Hawking's work on black holes with his work on the origin of the universe. It seems to me that you are thinking of the Hawking-Penrose singularity theorems? These assert that, according to Einstein's theory of general relativity, the end point of gravitational collapse of a star of mass greater than 3 suns must end in a black hole and a space-time singularity. Conversely they also demonstrate that the universe must have began with a space-time singularity, which can be conceived as gravitational collapse of a star in reverse. I think this what you are alluding to in your post.
>
>Now what the singularity theorems ultimately suggest, and both Penrose and Hawking agree, is that Einstein's theory of general relativity is incomplete for physics collapses at a space-time singularity. In other words General Relativity cannot tell us what is the end point of the gravitational collapse of a star nor the origin of the universe. To do this we need a quantum theory of gravity, a combination of general relativity with quantum mechanics. This is where agreement ends. So Penrose is working on his Twistor Theory approach to quantum gravity, Hawking on Euclidean quantum gravity, Lee Smolin and others at Penn State on loop quantum gravity and its variants and just about everybody else on string/M theory. Without a quantum theory of gravity there exists no ultimate theory on the gravitational collapse of a star or the origin of the universe. Evolution theory by contrast is objectively correct.
>
>To explore these issues further if you haven't already checked them out check out these web sites which have plenty of authoritative info on these matters.
>1.) The official superstring theory web site:  www.superstringtheory.com
>2.) The Institute for Theoretical Physics at Santa Barbara public lecture web sites (there's lectures here by Hartle on gravity and Ed Witten, the god of string theory on space-time and M theory) at www.itp.ucsb.edu/activities/public/
>3.) For the accelerating expansion of the universe and infinite/finite debate see a really good lecture online by Michael Turner, a leading theorist on the issue, at the Fermi National Lab at www.fnal.gov/
>
>I think you will find these sites informative and fun to check out! Also I apologise for not picking up earlier that you were referring to Hawking's singularity theorems in your original post.
>
>Regards,
>Marko.
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