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BHA: Re: RE: Epistemological relativism



 
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This is an example of the epistemic fallacy. The world's existence does not depend on our knowledge of it. Our knowledge is fallible and socially constructed. This does NOT necessarily imply our knowledge is wrong. It simply (1) means that the reality of the world does not depend on our knowledge and (2) we can always be wrong. Socially constructed knowledge is not necessarily fiction, although it likely has biases and blind spots. The practice of dismissing anything but a "God's eye view of the world" as falsehood is a typical positivist practice.
 
Take what you wrote above. Would you say the world according to Newton's physics was real or not? If it was real, when Einstein came along did it become unreal? Knowledge changes, grows, and perhaps shrinks. This does not mean the object of knowledge does so in the same way.
 
Newton's physics was most defintely real and still is. There exists a great falsehood in much discussion about Einstein's general theory of relativity. Take Newtonian gravity. Newton discovered the inverse square law and had to rely on "spooky action at a distance" to explain Gravity. Einstein explained Gravity as the curvature of space-time but notice that GR contains Newton as a low energy approximation in much the same way that M-theory would contain GR as a low energy approximation. Newton was not displaced, our "knoweledge" of gravity became much more deeper it did not "change". To see that Newton is "real" just ask NASA-they still use Newton. One can even derive classical physics from Quantum Mechanics, for instance one can derive Maxwell's equations from QM. Of course what you assert to be the epistemic fallacy of course may be false, if one takes the Copenhagen Interpretation of QM seriously (which a realist would not do of course). But even if we accept the claim, which we should not, does that mean that Einstein came up with a new theory becuase he was living in a different society from Newton? Both Newton and Einstein used the scientific method that has nothing to do with "geo-historical" processes. Note also that space and time are absolute in Minkowski's 4-manifold.
 
To see that epistemic relativism is false consider Mathematics. Is a mathematical theorem socially constructed?
 
 
There is a big difference between having "nothing to do with biology ..." etc. and "not being reducible to biology" etc. Take, for example, water. It consists of hydrogen and oxygen, two substances that are gaseous at room temperature and sea level and that burn in the presence of a match. Water, however, is liquid under the same conditions and puts out fires. While its power to do so depends on the nature of oxygen and hydrogen, the characteristics of each alone do not explain the characteristics of water. This argument is essentially one about emergent powers -- larger level things have powers by virtue of the ways lower level things are combined and structured within them. It is also one about the direction of causality: by virtue of what logic do we think societies or water owe their characteristics to people or oxygen/hydrogen rather than vice versa? For the atoms, it's possible to have them alone (or at least not in combination) without water, but for people is it possible to have them without society? Not!
 
There are lots of possible answers for your question about human nature. Besides God, there's social context, history, accident, and life situation, to name a few.
 
Why would you think only "the natural is real"? Do you think your bank account or the U.S. constitution are unreal?
 
Human nature is most certainly not socially constructed. Human social forms arise as a result of our biological natures. The fact that we can form such societies must have something to do with our biological/cognitive makeup. This is the only way can say that human nature is space and time invariant. Are we to suppose that human nature was different in 1965? That human nature in China differs from human nature in the US? As for water/steam etc, these matters can be explained from the atomic hypothesis. It is a well known scientific fact that Chemistry reduces to Physics, ie Quantum Mechanics. My bank account is real and the US constitution etc to the extent that I make them real. They are not real indepedent of human agency. I am most certainly "natural" and whatever I do can ultimately be explained through naturalism.
 
Note that humans are not the only organism's to have societies so if we assert that there exists some unnatural form of existience, "social kinds", are termite societies a part of this unnatural domain? If not, why not?
 
An epistemic relativist has no justification in asserting that anything is real. He is not therefore a realist.
 
 
    Marsh Feldman
 
 


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