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BHA: definitions
- Subject: BHA: definitions
- From: Ruth Groff <rgroff@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 19:58:18 -0400 (EDT)
Hi everybody,
I've been using the set of definitions for real, existent and present that
Louis gave us a few posts back. I thought they were helpful, and seem to be
accurate to Bhaskar (though I'm still not sure that I want to agree that
existence has no bearing on real-ness) and was aiming for pristine clarity
in my usage!
Sorry I wasn't explicit enough about having adopted them in the first place.
Here they go again:
>Here is my suggestion for nomenclature. Consider some examples. Let's say
>Sally is in the cafe and Pierre is not. Let's consider Socrates and Santa
>as well, giving us the following four statements:
>
>-Sally is real, exists, and is present.
>-Pierre is real and exists, but he is absent.
>-Socrates is real, but he does not exist and therefore cannot be present.
>-Santa is not real, does not exist and therefore cannot be present.
>
>I suggest that these four exhaust the typology regarding the logical
>relations between "real", "exists", and "absent". So, existence implies
>reality, but not conversely: whoever exists in the examples is real, but
>Socrates is real without existing (he did exist, but no longer does).
>Non-existence implies absence though not conversely (Pierre is absent but
>exists). Unreality implies non-existence, though not conversely (Socrates
>is non-existent but is real).
R.
--- from list bhaskar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---
- Thread context:
- Re: BHA: conceptual rigour, (continued)
- BHA: pleasure,
Ruth Groff Wed 10 Jun 1998, 15:09 GMT
- BHA: Emergent realities,
MSPRINKER Wed 10 Jun 1998, 13:24 GMT
- BHA: definitions,
Ruth Groff Tue 09 Jun 1998, 23:58 GMT
- Re: BHA: Your solidarity needed for a free press. Spain.,
rma3 Tue 09 Jun 1998, 17:21 GMT
- Re: BHA: Bhaskar, Social Scince and absence,
Colin Wight Tue 09 Jun 1998, 16:26 GMT
- BHA: idealism,
Ruth Groff Tue 09 Jun 1998, 15:53 GMT
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