Sorry to belabor the point, since this obviously isn't going anywhere,
but that was never the idea. It wasn't a question of whether the
archives should be open, but how and to whom. Having the list open to
those who make up the discussion of the list is less a question of
'privatization' and something more like saying that the commons are
for the commoners.
My concern was never really whether the list was open or closed but
that I do not like the idea of random spam-bots and other net-roving
parasitic machines coming along and slurping up conversations and
doing god knows what with them. Of course having the list archives
open only to the commoners of the list does not completely address
that, but it does somewhat. That's why for the most part for the last
year or two, once I found out the archives were completely open, I
began to treat this not as a discussion list but rather basically an
announcement list and not much else.
Given the conflicting arguments on this I would suggest something like
a compromise, like inserting a line of HTML code in the page of the
list home and the archives that indicates that web robots and digital
all you can snoop bots are not welcome, something like;
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NO INDEX,NO FOLLOW">
True, this will likely not address all such concerns, but it will
partially result is less data mining of the archives.
Cheers
Stevphen
On 24 Sep 2009, at 15:19, Zach Schwartz-Weinstein wrote:
Open Marxism, closed list? I'd rather keep it publ-- err, common.
ZSW
On Sep 24, 2009, at 9:58 AM, claudius <claudius.laumanns@xxxxxx
<mailto:claudius.laumanns@xxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi anybody,
"We"? Some of us don't agree and said so. There was no vote.
We don't have votes. I did't mean to be dishonest. This was my
perception of the debate. Sure there are others. So what should we
do about Autopsy Archives? Are there veto rights? Anyway i see,
there are some who are angry with me. I am not happy about that.
Yours Claudius
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created through its performance, by doing/becoming; it is a political
practice. To become autonomous is to refuse authoritarian and
compulsory cultures of separation and hierarchy through embodied
practices of welcoming difference... Becoming autonomous is a
political position for it thwarts the exclusions of proprietary
knowledge and jealous hoarding of resources, and replaces the social
and economic hierarchies on which these depend with a politics of
skill exchange, welcome, and collaboration. Freely sharing these with
others creates a common wealth of knowledge and power that subverts
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