Re: AUT: Negri and Charleton Heston?

[Nate Holdren <nateholdren@xxxxxxxxx>]

hey Lowe-
quick questions-

first, given that practically speaking the guaranteed wage can only
come from the state, how does the global citizenship demand play out
in connection with this? It seems to me it can either be just
agitational (ie, not a real demand that one expects to be met but
rather a recompositional tactic, something to stir up 'the masses') or
it has to an implicit call for global government. Setting aside the
politics of either position for the moment, does this seem like a fair
assessment?

second,
you quote Chris:

 > Since Negri scraps negation and dialectic, he can only be trapped in a
> dualism of "multitude as whole class' and 'multitude as subject'.

Then you write:

"Where is the "trap"? Or rather what is the significance of this idea
of "multitude as a whole"? It is simply constant capital. There is no
trap there, it doesn't end with what it accomplished at some point in
the past, with dead labor. I don't see why one would need to "negate"
anything to make use of constant capital... for the multitude to be
defined as "subject"."

WHat does the 'it' in 'it is simply constant capital' refer to? In
other words, what are you saying is constant capital? The multitude?
If so, how is the multitude constant capital? As I understand it the
way the terms get used, the multitude is variable capital/labor power.

take care,
Nate
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:43:30 +0100, Lowe Laclau <lowe.laclau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >Both Negri and the movement link the demand for a "social wage"
> >
> > I don't see how that could be provided by anything but a state. Do
> > aut's have a position on that?
> >
> > Doug
>
> Theoretically it doesn't require a state... as the state acts as a
> mediator, the means of institutionalizing the varieties of waged
> labor. As a practical matter, it is still the only viable immediate
> way of doing it on a mass scale.
>
> Negri's position as I've understood it is not to let this lie simply
> in terms of nation-state mediation. National division is of absolutely
> no help to the global working classes... Thats why he always couples
> this issue with the global citizenship thing.
>
> I was looking through a book recently by an American author (I assume)
> Richard Duncan "The Dollar Crisis". He also includes a brief chapter
> on the "guaranteed wage" as one of the few viable alternatives to
> resolving the impending economic crisis the world will face if the
> global demand issue is not resolved. So it seems to me this campaign
> for this wage is by now being taken seriously by all different types
> of scholars.
>
> Lowe
>
>
>
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