Re: AUT: Negri and Charleton Heston?

[Lowe Laclau <lowe.laclau@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thiago.

> Utterly. The problem is to think "should" as opposed to "already is"... La
> comunidad is armed to the teeth. What does Negri want, three guns per adult
> American, rather than two? Or a better distribution of guns in favour of
> educated people who will know which way to shoot?

Are you implying here that the monopoly of means of violence by the
State is more desirable?

> I think this is further evidence of what I said earlier, that Negri (and
> Hardt) have very little idea of the actuality of the American working class,
> or perhaps they just ignore it. I think it is the later. It's probably not
> because of some stupidity on their part; it's just that they have abandoned
> the actual concept of economic class in favour of an essentially culturalist
> (and epistemically very conservative) concept of communal agency based on
> shared values.

I'm not sure how you come to this statement when they so very clearly
address the multitude in terms of economic difference. There is
absolutely nothing "culturalist" (if I understand what you mean by
this) about the multitude. Where do you see them arguing for peoples'
holding on to cultural attachments and values? And where exactly do
you get this idea of "shared values"? I've never seen them write about
this stuff.


>When they speak of multitudes, they repeat the venerable
> marxist trick of speaking of the true, self-realised, conscious working
> class, the real workers who are the agents of history.

Are you still talking about H&N?  I think we're gonna have one of
these long protracted arguments again where I ask you to quote where
you're reading this from, because I think you're speaking from some
conception you've gathered in your head that doesn't quite correspond
to what they've actually said.

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The rest - the
> millions of gun-totting capitalist crusaders - they're not really the
> working class. It's almost as if they haven't figured out anything nice to
> say, so they figure they'll say nothing. Polite, but useless analysis.


> Thiago
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