Re: AUT: Negri and Charleton Heston?

[Thiago Oppermann <difference_3ngine@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 29/11/2004 7:54 PM, "FoofighterPilot" <cwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> But Thiago, this is exactly my point.  The specificty is not simply 'gun
> ownership', but gun ownershp in a specific context and in specfic
> conditions.  This is not insignificant and the type of gun ownership is
> therefore not irrelevant, but it is something to think about.  Gneric gun
> ownership tells us nothing.

But then when we speak of gun control, we are speaking about the destruction
of certain conditions and social relations to the instruments of death.
Maybe that is not how liberals think of it, but it makes no difference. Gun
control is extremely sensible.

The fetishism doesn't lie in thinking that guns kill people. It lies in not
understanding that guns are labour power accumulated in the form of lethal
force, constituted partly in terms of the practices and work performed by
the gun owner in caring and bonding with his gun. The use value of a gun is
killing people, also to be a surrugate penis or whatever, but primarily to
kill people. It's not surprising that they kill people. They should be
banned, the factories that make them dissassembled. If you have a problem
with that we can settle it mano a mano, partner :P

The correlation between gun ownership and gun death is very solid; the
corellation to murder is also pretty solid.



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