Re: AUT: Negri and Charleton Heston?

["FoofighterPilot" <cwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

But Thiago, this is exactly my point.  The specificty is not simply 'gun
ownership', but gun ownershp in a specific context and in specfic
conditions.  This is not insignificant and the type of gun ownership is
therefore not irrelevant, but it is something to think about.  Gneric gun
ownership tells us nothing.

Th8s is why the problem of gun ownership and theselling of guns by suburban
elements to "inner city" people is of no small importance, as Michael Moore
correctly raised in Bowling for Columbine.

Cheers,
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thiago Oppermann" <difference_3ngine@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: AUT: Negri and Charleton Heston?


> On 29/11/2004 5:44 AM, "chris wright" <cwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Actually, Canadians own way more guns per capita and do not have these
> > problems.  Clearly, being armed is not the issue and frankly fear of gun
> > ownership is liberal tripe.
>
> This is a very American attitude. It's is so fetishistic it's not funny -
as
> if gun ownership (or guns) coud be separated from the nefarious social
> context that goes with them. Suddenly, Chris, you've started talking about
> property relations without, erm, dealing with the social relations encoded
> in these.
>
> Canadians mostly don't own guns for defense. The per capita rate for the
> whole country, I think, is about the same as the US. It much more heavily
> geographically skewed than in the US. The high rates people talk about are
> mostly in sparsely populated regions where most guns are owned for
hunting.
> The guns in question are mostly rifles, there is nothing like the
mountains
> of handguns you find in the US. There are 63 times more handguns in the US
> than canada. And even that doesn't stop tons of people dying from gunshot
> wounds in canada. In fact, the Northwestern territories have a rate of gun
> death far higher than the US.
>
> http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/TheCaseForGunControl.html
>
>
> Thiago
>
>
>
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