AUT: re: responsibility is a myth

[andrew robinson <ldxar1@xxxxxxxxx>]

Harald you fool, you still don?t understand that
opposition to your naïve conception of will is NOTHING
TO DO WITH your silly image of ?enslavement?.  As if
your desires and impulses INSIDE YOURSELF, which are
in fact WHAT YOU ARE, are somehow EXTERNAL forces
similar to a master or god!!!  You clearly have NO
IDEA what you are on about.  Your use of the term
?slave morality? has nothing to do with Nietzsche?s.
Nietzsche holds something similar to a Deleuzian model
of the psyche, saying for instance that there is no
doer separate from the deed.

As for why you should listen to me, well, I recall
Socrates?s old saying that he?s only the wisest man in
Greece cos he?s the only one who KNOWS he knows
nothing.  Well, I know I?m not really a willing agent,
whereas you pretend you are, so there is even LESS
reason to listen to YOU.

My point with either/or is not the ?bit-of-both?
nonsense you believe in, but rather, a ?neither/nor? ?
people are NEITHER free-willed conscious subjects, NOR
robots or slaves controlled by external forces.  NOR
SOME COMBINATION OF THE TWO.  The Deleuzian theory of
desire offers a THIRD OPTION which is NEITHER/NOR.

Your fly is stuck in the bottle of the concept of
responsibility, and you are having trouble conceiving
of anything else.  You say I can?t avoid the problem
of responsibility.  Well, the problem doesn?t arise if
you don?t embrace your ontological presuppositions, so
it is really pretty easy to ?escape?.  And the binary
is YOURS NOT MINE ? because YOU are the one who
asserts whenever I oppose personal responsibility,
that this must mean I think people are ?robots? or
?slaves? ? which I have always made clear is not what
I?m saying.  So the binary is present in the fact that
YOU assume the ABSENCE of the molar self and of
personal responsibility to AUTOMATICALLY MEAN the
status of robot/slave, when in fact I?m meaning
something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.  Something you RENDER
UNTHINKABLE by your insistence on tired repetition of
this stupid either/or.

PS the point some scientists suggest, as in the quote
you provide, is not that consciousness DETERMINES
action but that it can in some circumstances HALT an
action which is already underway (a bit like hitting a
break on a car) - thus, it is reactive rather than
active, and cannot POSITIVELY construct anything -
hence, no possibility of creative action resulting
from consciousness.


		
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