AUT: Re: Caffentzis article

["FoofighterPilot" <cwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Do folks onlist living in or with friends in the US think this accurate?
> Almost all of my friends are young people and either leftists, bitter
cynics
> with decent jobs or fuck ups who can't hold a normal life together and
have
> trouble getting by (or some combination of these categories). As such, I
> don't really see folks I know in the above quotes. Can others comment on
> this? Particularly on the attraction of the war on terror? Caffentzis gets
a
> lot of mileage from a small handful of poll data and I'm not totally
> convinced. Do white workers in the US really see flags waving and listen
to
> diatribes against the browner skin toned and think "hmm, this could mean a
> decent job for me...". Fear is definitely ever-present in this country,
but
> I'm with Chris that in my experience it's less an externally directed fear
> and more a fear of loss of wages and ensuing financial ruin. (The
corollary
> to this though is that with credit many US workers are living beyond their
> means of income, which could mean some real ugliness if the bottom drops
> out, whether left leaning or right leaning is another question.)
>
In Baltimore and Washington DC, there is a definite impact on jobs and hope
for jobs.  There are also a host of secondary and tertiary jobs created,
such as security in public places which oddly started out as largely African
American employed, but that is rapidly changing.

Btw, IMO the fear of loss here is getting expressed through xenophobic,
racialist lenses in many cases.

Cheers,
Chris



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