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Re: AUT: Re: Immeasurable value



Hey Keir,

Yeah, I have been over this on the list as much as can be done and I don't
have anything too different to say.  So small notes.

I think that the split is not one for the party, but the contradiction point
from which labor is able to go beyond being merely for-capital.  I wouldn't
want to rewrite Theorie Communiste's excellent piece which raises the
question of how the working class, as a class reproducing capital, can
overthrow capital.  They find the key in exploitation and IMO rightly so.
It is a dividing line IMO between 'imposition of work' and 'exploitation'
which focusses the break between autonomist Marxism and tendencies like TC,
Aufheben, Wildcat and one-offs such as myself.

I don't see a great difference theoretically between the post-Situ/Comments
'integrated spectacle' and 'total subsumption.'  I do not at all disagree
with the negative impact of post-SI situ theory, starting with Debord's own
critique of the SI in 72(?).

As for your final comments, I simply am unsure what these things mean on
some level.  Labor that is about influencing social cooperation formally may
or may not say something.  I honestly don't know and Negri has not convinced
me so far.  That does not render the idea un-evocative.

As for total subsumption, a friend of mine would say that recourse to any
kind of personal experience is a sign of weakness theoretically and would
reject it tout court, but I find that my boss understands very clearly that
there is a line, a real line, between labor time and non-labor time because
he tries to get all of us to work as much as possible, and any contractor
who refuses to say, keep the cell phone on 24/7 or answer pages on weekends
or off hours, isn't going to get hired.  Why not?  Because there is a space
of non-labor there.  Dunno if that is what Negri means, but then I am not
sure whether he has any interest in the empirical validity of his
categories.

Cheers,
Chris



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