Re: AUT: RE: antiwar movement

["Nate Holdren" <nateholdren@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Chris,
It may have been a typo, but you used the word 'transfirmation', which could
also be a lovelly portmanteau word in the grand tradition of J. Derrida and
H. Dumpty, combining transverse and affirmation. I doubt you've gone
Deleuzian on us (though the reference to buggering makes me wonder, and put
that way perhaps the Deleuzian approach is even more appealing...) so I'm
guessing it was a typo. Anyhow.
xo
n8


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>From: chris wright <cwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: aut-op-sy <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: AUT: RE: antiwar movement
>Date: 27 Mar 2004 10:45:38 -0500
>
>On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 14:49, Nate Holdren wrote:
> > Hi Peter-
> > Sorry for the rough and schematic character of this (as usual) hasty
>post,
> > I'm pressed for time (as usual). Well put and I like the references to
>the
> > Colectivo Situaciones and Precarias a la Deriva. What's the problem,
>though,
> > with communicability? Sure, there are no communicative guarantees -
> > conversational misfire can always happen - but isn't incommunicability
>just
> > another unpleasant cousin in the same family as transcendence? It's like
> > talk about absolute difference from certain anti-hegelian camps, one
>moves
> > away from some of the sillier excesses of the tradition but still
>retains an
> > absolute, a foundationalism (or a despair over the lack of achieving a
> > viable foundation).
>
>Possibly, indeed.  A good thing to look out for.
>
>The reason I'm drawn to the Spinozist approaches to
> > Marxism is precisely because in the idea of immanence (which I don't
>pretend
> > to really understand)
>
>A notion, like Spinoza's Substance, which is used in a quite
>metaphysical way, just as one could critique Nietzsche's use of the
>notion of Life as fundamentally metaphysical, too.
>
>  it seems to me there's an affirmation that the
> > hacienda can always be built, in theory speaking, that is, that
> > relationships are always constructed and at least potentially
>constructible.
> > One may fail in a project, communication may not occur or may break
>down,
> > but that doesn't mean it was impossible, that failure was guaranteed
>from
> > the outset.
>
>I am not sure that immanence is so much better for this than the
>dialectic.  Both lay claim (and how credibly is really the content of
>many debates here) to achieving what you find valuable in the idea of
>immanence.  Anyway, a good point.
>
> > it gets
> > so tiresome to have to discuss the identity of identity and difference
>or
> > the monad of monads or 'whatever singularity' before one can have a
> > discussion about the labor process or barricade building and stone
>throwing
> > [not to reify or impose that particular model of action, but it is
>somewhat
> > dear to my heart as a young romantic].) *sigh*
>
>A discussion about the labor process is not quite the same thing as
>building barricades.  The former involves an engagement with the
>dominant ideas and some form of critique of them, whether the Deleuzian
>buggering or the Marxian immanent critique.  Neither one is required to
>a) build barricades b) support revolutionary transfrmation or work in
>particular struggles c) be a communist.
>
>There is no reason to counterpose critique in practice and critique in
>theory, but they aren't the same either.  The hope, IMO, is that in
>critiquing ideology, we help to clarify what is being done or not done,
>maybe not to help communicate it to others (though that is not a bad
>goal, but not one which will in any way guarantee that someone wants to
>take up arms alongside us, so to speak), but to communicate to ourselves
>within a particular situation (maybe this is a singularity or a
>collective situation), to clarify our movement.
>
>Just a thought.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>
>
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