Re: AUT: social centres & the global south?

[Enda Brophy <2eob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for the responses-

Sadly I don't speak Spanish Nate, but I'll run this stuff by some of my
friends.

And unfortunately the Bifo project is on hold for now, for a number of
reasons.  There are several publishers interested but no money for the
translation, and secondly I'm caught up in course work at the moment so
I've no time.  But the will is there and since he's got a new book out
(The Refusal of Work and Collective Intelligence) eventually the focus
might be on translating that instead of Fabbrica.

best,

e.




On Monday, Mar 15, 2004, at 12:18 Canada/Eastern, Nate Holdren wrote:

> Hi Enda-
>
> Interesting question. I don't know much about it myself. I'm no expert
> on the global south, just something of a fan, but in the little bit
> I've encountered I haven't run across any social center style stuff.
> There have been land seizures and so forth, and factory occupations,
> but that's a horse of a different color. (There does seem to be a
> fairly vibrant internet presence of Okupas from Spain, different
> social centers and so forth, and they are engaged with material
> similar to the areas you and I are interested in - Bifo's newest book
> came out in Spanish quite quickly. If you want links on that stuff I
> can provide material on that more easily.)
>
> On the Latin America stuff I did some quick googling and came up with
> a handful of links, almost all in Spanish, pasted below. The first
> four are accounts of a specific occupation in Argentina and police
> attacks on them. The email address of the house - Kasa L@s Gat@s - is
> included as well. Also I found a short blurb from a-infos from 1998
> about an occupation claiming to be one of the first in Argentina.
> There's very little information but there is an email address to
> contact them with.
> The last link below is a page I found in Portugese about social
> centers - news and so forth. All I have to work with on reading that
> is my already imperfect Spanish, which makes for slow going, so I just
> glanced over it.
>
> I don't know if any of this is helpful or not - do you speak Spanish?
> At the moment I don't have time to read over this stuff in any depth.
> Perhaps at a later date.
>
> By the way, do I misremember or are you translating Bifo's 'Factory of
> Unhappiness' book? I hope so, as reading it in English would be much
> faster for me than reading it in Spanish...
>
> all the best,
> Nate
>
> on Sunday you need some wine to get through the terrible wilderness of
> workdays.
> -Luisa Valenzuela, "Strange Things Happen Here"
>
>
>
> http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2002/09/48436.php
>
> http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2002/09/48527.php
>
> http://www.punksunidos.com.ar/okupa/05.htm
>
> http://www.cordobanexo.com.ar/kasa.htm
>
> kasalasgatas@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> from: http://www.ainfos.ca/98/nov/ainfos00246.html -
> Okupas de Rosario, Argentina Somos de la ciudad de Rosario, Argentina,
> formamos una de las primeras okupaciones en nuestro país. Queremos
> contactar con otr@s okupas del mundo, como así también ofrecer
> nuestros hogar, el Centro Social Okupado La Panaderia, en Viamonte
> 495, Rosario, cp 2000, Argentina, mail: detaro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> http://www.causaencantada.org/novas/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=4
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Enda Brophy <2eob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: AUT: social centres & the global south?
>> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:33:39 -0500
>>
>> hey all-
>>
>> I've been asked recently whether I know of any examples of the
>> occupied social centre form (and I'm thinking here of the Italian
>> variety which, rather than having a narrow focus on housing acts as
>> more of a hub for antagonistic and constituent practices) being
>> picked up in the global south.
>>
>> Of course for those of us in north america it's become pretty obvious
>> that any occupation of social space in recent years has been crushed
>> pretty swiftly (I'm thinking of takeovers that have happened in
>> Ottawa, Toronto, and Montreal in my part of the world), but do any of
>> you global south watchers/inhabitants/supporters have any interesting
>> examples of the form being adopted?
>>
>> Argentina was one of my first thoughts, but how have occupied spaces
>> there been similar/different from the Italian examples?
>>
>> Any thoughts on this would be appreciated as always.
>>
>> e.
>>
>>
>>
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