Re: AUT: Argentina: Diary of a Revolution

["Harald Beyer-Arnesen" <haraldba@xxxxxxxxx>]

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Apart from the specifics, as I see it, this again brings us
back to the question of the need for permanent (mass)
organizations. As far as I can see, if such an organizational
foms still is not possible, this also tells how far from a social
revolutonary situation we still are, even if Argentina, as
Chiapas in its particular way, might have brought us
important steps ahead. But we should be thinking in terms
of at the best laying the first building stones. This all brings
us back to the question of consciousness of course (and the
absolute rejection of any form of Leninism) and closely
linked this, the belief in the very possibility of a world beyond
capitalism, both which in my opinion best are developed within
non-hierarchical permanent organizational structures,
whether these are as yet possible or not.

I do not think that I am terribly wrong when I say that very few
Argentinians today live under any illusion that their struggles
today is about soon leaving capitalism all behind, but rather
to gain more power over their lives within the framework of
global capitalism.

Harald


> Hi all.
>
> I'm also interested the question of time frames arising from the recent
> posts on the movements in Argentina by Scott and Monty.
>
> While not holding to Lenin's view that November 6th will be too early.
> ... On the other hand, November 8th
> will be too late", I do wonder how long the sort of spaces opened up by
> these struggles can be sustained. I could also be far too pessimistic in
> asking this though - after all, the movements in Chiapas have been
> developing in the open for 9 years now.
>
> So can anyone throw light on the discussions there about the prospects
> of those movements' developments in the coming months, the nature of the
> counter attacks anticipated or are even unfolding on the part of capital
> and the state, and how people are seeking to respond to them?
>
> I have seen little discussion of this aspect of the Argentinian
> situation in English, beyond the sort of  views which seeks to
> legitimate/rationalise vanguard politics. About the only exception I can
> think of is the long piece on Argentina in the latest copy of Aufheben.
> But then maybe I haven't known where to look - or maybe there are too
> many unknowns in the regional and global mix to hold such a discussion
> at any but the most abstract level ...
>
> Steve
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