AUT: Re: unions against the war??

["Harald Beyer-Arnesen" <haraldba@xxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "neil" <74742.1651@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "autopsy" <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Neil C." <74742.1651@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 25. januar 2003 09.14
Subject: AUT: unions against the war??

Neil

"Outside, we are a tiny minority ...."

Herald  doubts  that in the big US  march 'official' organizers
really " controlled" most of the 200,000 that marched in Wash
DC on the 18th -- maybe not formally, Organizationally,  but
their class/social/political   influences  in  the  mass
consciousness  is sure to have existed and  is no doubt
imbibed ideologically in stronger  doses than he thinks , by
the nature and conscious functioning of capitalist  social
relations & dominance themselves.."

It is not a question of what I think or not. I do not doubt that
that these marches also have the kind of influences that you
say they have. But they are not likely to go away anytime
soon, and the situation is no longer quite like it was here
in the 70'ies when Maoist demonstration guards would do
their best to throw any No-War-But-The-Class-War lik
kind of section or parole out off the ralley.

I have no principled stand against attending "Stop the War
Coalition" like organizing meetings. (I use the U.K as an
example as the political compostion of such coaltions pretty
close to what I know from Norway -- with the exception
that more or less maoist-rooted curriencies still are
stronger here, even if far more watered out and less dominant
than they used to be. ) But at this point I tend to see it as
most of the times -- if not all -- as a sadomasocistic
waste of time and energy.

So to me it makes much more sense to organize a separate
section and one own paroles within the main ralley, and/or
distribute texts that make some sense, whether posed as a
direct or implicit critique of dominant currrents.  Unfortunately
-- as I see it -- all to often such separate "bloques" has often
not been so much about different and clearer politics  --  but
different clothes and "tactics".

Often what might have the most value is to try to write good
texts, in particular when combined the organizing of meetings ...
But much depends on the quality of texts and meetings.
If the later also function sociallly, and bring different age
groups, miliues etc together, so all the better.
        If you manage to use this occasions to combine a
section in the ralley, good texts and paroles and good
meeting/s and dscussions, that is not bad.

At last, to me it is very unclear what precisly you are arguing
for Neil.

Harald
















     --- from list aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---