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Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??
- Subject: Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??
- From: "Laura Fiocco" <fiocco@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:26:43 +0100
O.K. but vietcongs gave us ten years, with their "partial victories", to
grow up
ciao laura
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry M. Cleaver" <hmcleave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Laura Fiocco wrote:
>
> > And Harry ask what I mean by "Vietnam teaches"
> >
> > The USA army in the war of vietnam was defeated by vietcong (people, not
> > just workers), but USA military policy against vietnam was defeated by
the
> > struggle of millions of people in the State and in the whole world.
> > The anti-war movement grew upgrading and unifing the goals of different
> > social forces because the choice at stake was so high (quality of life
> > against capitalist power).
> > I think that this is the lesson
> > ciao laura
> >
>
> Basically I agree, except I would say that while the VietCong won many
> partial victories over the US military on the ground, in the end the only
> real military "defeat" was political for exactly the reason you state:
> the circulation of struggle against the war within the United States and
> around the world.
> H.
>
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- Thread context:
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??, (continued)
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Scott Hamilton Tue 21 Jan 2003, 22:05 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Nate Holdren Wed 22 Jan 2003, 05:21 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harry M. Cleaver Wed 22 Jan 2003, 13:03 GMT
- AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Laura Fiocco Wed 22 Jan 2003, 14:18 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Laura Fiocco Wed 22 Jan 2003, 14:26 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harry M. Cleaver Wed 22 Jan 2003, 17:32 GMT
- AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Wed 22 Jan 2003, 20:20 GMT
- AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Thu 23 Jan 2003, 10:38 GMT
- AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Thu 23 Jan 2003, 10:59 GMT
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