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Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??
- Subject: Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??
- From: "Harry M. Cleaver" <hmcleave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:03:05 -0600 (CST)
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Laura Fiocco wrote:
> And Harry ask what I mean by "Vietnam teaches"
>
> The USA army in the war of vietnam was defeated by vietcong (people, not
> just workers), but USA military policy against vietnam was defeated by the
> struggle of millions of people in the State and in the whole world.
> The anti-war movement grew upgrading and unifing the goals of different
> social forces because the choice at stake was so high (quality of life
> against capitalist power).
> I think that this is the lesson
> ciao laura
>
Basically I agree, except I would say that while the VietCong won many
partial victories over the US military on the ground, in the end the only
real military "defeat" was political for exactly the reason you state:
the circulation of struggle against the war within the United States and
around the world.
H.
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- Thread context:
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??, (continued)
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harry M. Cleaver Tue 21 Jan 2003, 16:14 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Laura Fiocco Tue 21 Jan 2003, 17:24 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Scott Hamilton Tue 21 Jan 2003, 22:05 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Nate Holdren Wed 22 Jan 2003, 05:21 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harry M. Cleaver Wed 22 Jan 2003, 13:03 GMT
- AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Laura Fiocco Wed 22 Jan 2003, 14:18 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Laura Fiocco Wed 22 Jan 2003, 14:26 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harry M. Cleaver Wed 22 Jan 2003, 17:32 GMT
- AUT: Re: unions against the war??,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Wed 22 Jan 2003, 20:20 GMT
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