Re: AUT: Re: Palestine, Israel...."ethnocratic liberalism"

[Ilan Shalif <gshalif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi People
Some "leftists" do not really understand Israel.
The Israeli states started in 1948 as a kind of state capitalism
with 75% of the economy ander the rule of the national socialist
pseudo worker party.

It graduately shifted to a more privatized capitalist economy
and the lost of its power to the populist nationalist capitalist
party exelerated the end of state capitalism.

It was that party which made peace with Egypt and gave back
the whole Synai teritory.

The political presecution of the more leftists and the Israeli
Palestinans diminished immensely under their rule.

Only later when the nationalist party lost its older base it
transformed to a more pro capitalist "social democratic" party,
loosing in the way its tirany over the working class.


topp8564@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> On 30/10/2002 2:28 AM, "Ilan Shalif" <gshalif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >> Someone has called this "ethnocratic liberalism", and
> >> it seems to be one of the best ways (at least to me)
> >> to describe Israel.
> >
> > It is clearly much more democratic and liberal since
> > the national socialists lost the power in 1977.
>
> Huh? That's the date people usually trace the great demise of liberal Israel
> back to... at least around my neck of the woods. Isiah Berlin used to have
> sleepless nights over this, according to E. Hobsbawm.
>
> Thiago
>
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