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Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes
- Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes
- From: topp8564@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:39:32 +1100
On 27/10/2002 12:02 PM, "Harald Beyer-Arnesen" <haraldba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <topp8564@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Aut-Op-Sy" <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 26. oktober 2002 17.59
> Subject: Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization
>
>
> The only worthy reformist demand, and one which
> also has a social revolutionary potential, is the call
> for civil rights and a East Mediterranean confederation.
> (To eternal hellfire with all nationalist and religious
> cravings. Better to vomit from too much alcohol.)
Hmm... I agree that that is a very good demand, but seeing that it is highly
unlikely to eventuate, I would support Palestinian nationalism as a stopgap
measure. The alternative means basically condemning a lot of people who pin
their hopes on the project of national liberation, who have very real
nationalist cravings. If the choice is to condemn them to oppression in this
world by Israel or to eternal hellfire, I suppose hellfire is the better
alternative. I am not a nationalist, but I would not couch my critique of
nationalism on the basis of the impurity of people's desires.
>
> Commericial:
>
> The next (just published?) issue of the "Anarcho-Syndicalist
> Review" should include an article I wrote around this subject
> called "Ghetto-statism, or confederal, social emanicipation?"
> It is introduced by these no doubt by me too hastily written
> down words as far as good language is concerned: <snip>
I basically agree with the sequel.
Thiago
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- Thread context:
- AUT: Midnight Notes on US Anti-War movement,
Montyneill Sun 27 Oct 2002, 15:02 GMT
- AUT: Multitudes,
myk zeitlin Sun 27 Oct 2002, 13:00 GMT
- AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Sun 27 Oct 2002, 01:02 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
Scott Hamilton Sun 27 Oct 2002, 03:36 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
topp8564 Sun 27 Oct 2002, 03:39 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
cwright Sun 27 Oct 2002, 06:41 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
Scott Hamilton Sun 27 Oct 2002, 12:54 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
cwright Mon 28 Oct 2002, 03:43 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Mon 28 Oct 2002, 04:24 GMT
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