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AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes
- Subject: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes
- From: "Harald Beyer-Arnesen" <haraldba@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 02:02:42 +0100
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From: <topp8564@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Aut-Op-Sy" <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 26. oktober 2002 17.59
Subject: Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization
Thiago wrote:
"I think it is a pretty serious failure of imagination to
think that a free Palestine should take the form of a
Palestinian nation-state. It just clearly cannot take
the form of a chauvinist Zionist nation-state. "Free
Palestine" could be a very radical idea, if you chose
to push it"
The only worthy reformist demand, and one which
also has a social revolutionary potential, is the call
for civil rights and a East Mediterranean confederation.
(To eternal hellfire with all nationalist and religious
cravings. Better to vomit from too much alcohol.)
Commericial:
The next (just published?) issue of the "Anarcho-Syndicalist
Review" should include an article I wrote around this subject
called "Ghetto-statism, or confederal, social emanicipation?"
It is introduced by these no doubt by me too hastily written
down words as far as good language is concerned:
"In the following Zionism is viewed, as a settler colonialist
project of a particular kind, but also in its historical roots
as a mirror image of the German nationalistic proto-type
born out of the debris of capitalist development. But it is
the French Revolution which none the less is the point of
departure and in a certain sense endpoint of this article,
as this revolution posed, at least in theory, but not only so,
the idea of a nation, not resting on "nationality" but on
citizenship irrespective of "blood", even if as we are still
talking about a state, also founded on exploitation and
the oppression needed to maintain it. Still the principle
of universal citizenship's rights (as far as possible imposed
and enforced from below) is a far better base than
nationalism to develop a directly democratic struggle of
workers-to-workers-solidarity on. While the former falls
far short of our ends, it does not, unlike nationalism, stand
in a direct opposition to these. Thus I will argue in regards
to the Palestine conflict that the only sensible perspective
in the current situation is to advance the idea of
citizenship rights within a East Mediterranean confederal
framework. I will also claim that up to this point, paradoxically
enough, the most advanced corporate capitalist forces in
Israel and the region as a whole, would share our interests,
in as far as this would entail a more effective exploitation
of the labour force (the inhabitants of the refugee camps
may be dirt poor, but they are not lucrative) and provide a
internal market large enough, to become players of some
importance within an increasingly globalized economy. In
this perspective Zionism, with its desire to exclusively
exploit Jewish workers, as well as a Palestinian mini-state,
has both run out of date."
Harald
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- Thread context:
- AUT: News on the web !,
Kurasje Archive Sun 27 Oct 2002, 21:20 GMT
- AUT: Midnight Notes, "Respect Your Enemies",
Jim Fleming Sun 27 Oct 2002, 16:35 GMT
- AUT: Midnight Notes on US Anti-War movement,
Montyneill Sun 27 Oct 2002, 15:02 GMT
- AUT: Multitudes,
myk zeitlin Sun 27 Oct 2002, 13:00 GMT
- AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Sun 27 Oct 2002, 01:02 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
Scott Hamilton Sun 27 Oct 2002, 03:36 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
topp8564 Sun 27 Oct 2002, 03:39 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
cwright Sun 27 Oct 2002, 06:41 GMT
- Re: AUT: Re: Palestione, Israel and other ghettoes,
Scott Hamilton Sun 27 Oct 2002, 12:54 GMT
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