Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization

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Dear Gra and others,
I think it's important for marxist/far left theory to
be fluid and not become mired down by repelling
diversity or ideas that challenge its long established
beliefs... having said that i think it is foolish to
distance oneself from any theorizing that can be of
value to those working to change the world...

Gra, I think your dislike of Negri's
progression/regression (depending on how you view it)
is basically a subjective point... i'll take your
opinion seriously and consider it, but i think the
list should discuss anything linked to autonomist
marxism, and sometimes deviate to other important
topics that can help us interpret the contemporary
world... i think this might be an interesting question
for hardt though, that is how does he see the audience
negri was writing for in early days as different to
the audience the two of them are writing for today...
love and rage,
-Sean

--- Dave Graham <davgraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear all
> I've not contributed to the thread about 'Empire'
> because quite frankly I
> find the language just too difficult. I AM familiar
> with Negri's earlier
> stuff - I have the Red Notes anthology and other
> stuff from the 1970s,
> which I DO find understandable - it is also well
> researched and referenced.
> Negri was part of a movement that was trying to
> understand its own
> practice. Today he seems to prefer to write /produce
> for quite a different
> audience. I don't feel he is writing for the likes
> of me, but I felt the
> stuff from the 60s and 70s WAS aimed at me.
> To be honest it's hard to believe it is the same
> person writing today and
> then, and I just wonder if I really need to bother
> with the odyssey that
> Negri is taking. sometimes I think there is the odd
> insight and at other
> times I'm simply lost.
> the discussion about empire v imperialism sometimes
> makes sense to me and
> sometimes doesn't - but speaking as an activist, I
> had already arrived at
> some of the same conclusions eg on national
> liberation WTIHOUT having to go
> 'round the houses' the way Negri does. Does that
> make my conclusions any
> the less valid?
> do I really have to master philosophy before I can
> have any kind of
> understanding of the world around me?
> Autopsy was set up so we could exchange our
> understanding of the processes
> of decomposition/ recomposition of our own movement
> - apart from some
> incidental posts, we do not seem to be doing that,
> rather we are in danger
> of trying to construct yet another critique [or even
> a methodology for a
> critique] - do we really have to do that?
> Please, this is not some 'workeritis' :) - I have
> had a decent enough
> education but I have no wish to turn myself into an
> academic. I don't want
> necessarily to stop the regular correspondents but
> I'm finding it
> increasingly hard to work through/follow some the
> discussions which are
> becoming so intricate. I have limited time and
> sometimes you just have to
> make a judgement about what it is worthwhile
> pursuing - how many others are
> there on the list who are finding this ?
> And finally I don't want to be part of any movement
> that needs 'gurus' to
> do my thinking for me.
> Sorry if this comes across as some kind of rant, but
> I really would like
> Autopsy to do what it was set up for.
>
> Gra
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dave Graham
> <davgraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
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