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Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization
- Subject: Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization
- From: Thomas Seay <entheogens@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:56:38 -0700 (PDT)
--- Harald Beyer-Arnesen <haraldba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Personally I am convinced
> that the
> territorializing, reterritorializing, and
> deterritorializing language
> of Deleuze makes sense some times but that it also
> often
> functions just the same way as the word "fuck" does
> for others
To be honest, where as I know what decentralizing
means, I would have to guess at what is meant by
"deterritorializing".
My first reaction when I see a bunch of polysyllabic
language is to think that it is "bullshit". Indeed,
sometimes that is the case. Sometimes it isn't.
I was speaking to an Italian friend the other day
about
this. She claims (and I am just repeating her, so
dont get angry with me) that in Italy, intellectuals
are encouraged to use a more baroque language. That
is in contrast with America at least. I can remember
as a freshman, taking an English composition course, I
tried to impress the professor by including lots of
obscure words in my first essay. He wrote "WOW!" in
red on the top of my paper and took marks off of my
paper. I got the message.
Despite Scott's accusation that I offend the english
language in my translations, I can tell you that I
actually tried to elucidate Negri's language as much
as possible. It's not easy to do, especially when you
are trying to stick to the text as much as possible.
My understanding is that we have Hardt to thank for
Empire not being more difficult than it is. If you
read earlier texts (with less post-structuralist
stuff) like "Marx Beyond Marx", you discover that
even there, Negri does not make it easy for the
reader.
My point is that perhaps the problem is not uniquely
due to the hazy post-structuralist language (although
that plays a big part)
but also has something to do with a different
intellectual culture, personal writing style and,
well, laziness on the part of the writer.
-Thomas
=====
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- Thread context:
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization, (continued)
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
Nate Holdren Fri 18 Oct 2002, 21:13 GMT
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Fri 18 Oct 2002, 22:17 GMT
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
Thomas Seay Sat 19 Oct 2002, 02:43 GMT
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
cwright Sat 19 Oct 2002, 03:48 GMT
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
Thomas Seay Sat 19 Oct 2002, 03:56 GMT
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
Dave Graham Sat 19 Oct 2002, 14:22 GMT
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
Peter Jovanovic Sun 20 Oct 2002, 07:02 GMT
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
Scott Hamilton Sun 20 Oct 2002, 10:05 GMT
- Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization,
asc Sun 20 Oct 2002, 20:18 GMT
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