Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization

["Harald Beyer-Arnesen" <haraldba@xxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "Nate Holdren" <nateholdren@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: 18. oktober 2002 23.13
Subject: Re: AUT: de- and re-territorialization


> Hi Lowe-
> Thanks for your response. I still don't get it, unfortunately. Maybe I'm
> just thick from lack of downtime lately.
> Please explain what 'territoriality' means when you say
"Deterritorializing
> refers to its process of removing the territoriality of one mechanism or
> process in the capitalist chain and capitals ventual reterritorialisation
> with another mechanism or process."
>
> Sorry to be a bother - the vocabulary is quite suggestive and interesting
> but I'd like to grasp it more thoroughly. Perhaps an example would help?
>
> best,
> Nate

That is the problem with much "poststructuralist" langauge.
More often than not the explantions are carried out in the
same language -- the same concepts and metaphors (claimed
not to be so)  -- that was supposed to be explained.
        As long as it just philosophy it does not that matter much.
But when used in a political context it also becomes a poltical
problem, or as George Caffentzis once put it to me: also a
political choice and position.
        It also makes it very hard to decide when there is some-
thing of substance said and when the terms are used as
mantras, or if the speaker fully understand what they them-
selves are saying. It reminds me a bit about the decease of
those that cannot speak 3 sentences without putting in the
word "dialectic(s)". But then at least most of the in between
is seldom hard to grasp.

This is not written to difficult. Not everybody has the courage,
sincerity and patience to ask over and over again the
questions that Nate do. Personally I am convinced that the
territorializing, reterritorializing, and deterritorializing language
of Deleuze makes sense some times but that it also often
functions just the same way as the word "fuck" does for
others, and is as such an example of how the "philosophy of
difference" often tends to reduce everything to the same.
Sorry ...

Harald








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