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Re: AUT: Harald, welfare state

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Interesting thread, this (and the interwoven reply by Harald to Arriana) that
I am catching up on a bit.

For now I would just point out that at least in the US (and I suspect Europe
and Japan) the variants on the welfare state were most certainly a response
to class struggle, but always had a policing and controlling aspect. In
addition to the demand for more money, welfare mothers in the US fought
against the policing aspect. It was only in early 1970s, for example, that in
Massachusetts women won the right not to have to tell who the parent was, or
the right for a man to stay overnight in the welfare women's apartment. The
former has in the past few years been overturned, so now it is necessary for
the woman to name a name.

Indeed, the turn began early, by the late 1970s. I went back to grad school
in 1982 in part because I saw friends in the social work sectors and
education being more and more asked to repress and police their clients. They
were fighting doing so, but their jobs were redefined to emphasize the
control functions. I think (to loosely connect also to some of the thread on
Fortunati) much of this was very much about getting reproduction back under
control after the successes of the women's movements.

Monty

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Interesting thread, this (and the interwoven reply by Harald to Arriana) that I am catching up on a bit.
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<BR>For now I would just point out that at least in the US (and I suspect Europe and Japan) the variants on the welfare state were most certainly a response to class struggle, but always had a policing and controlling aspect. In addition to the demand for more money, welfare mothers in the US fought against the policing aspect. It was only in early 1970s, for example, that in Massachusetts women won the right not to have to tell who the parent was, or the right for a man to stay overnight in the welfare women's apartment. The former has in the past few years been overturned, so now it is necessary for the woman to name a name.
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<BR>Indeed, the turn began early, by the late 1970s. I went back to grad school in 1982 in part because I saw friends in the social work sectors and education being more and more asked to repress and police their clients. They were fighting doing so, but their jobs were redefined to emphasize the control functions. I think (to loosely connect also to some of the thread on Fortunati) much of this was very much about getting reproduction back under control after the successes of the women's movements.
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