Re: AUT: Re: [Fwd: <nettime> Toni Negri: Social Struggles in

[Arianna <above@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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>Arianna please don't berate Harald [at least so quickly into this]

ok


>The fact that you don't recognise 'work to rule' is an indication to me
>that we have a 'generation gap' which may account for some of the non
>communication here.
>I would guess that HArald and I are from the same generation and that you
>are younger. A work to rule was an extremely effective weapon from the 60s
>and 70s. In effect we did exactly as we were ordered to by our bosses
>/managers.

thanks for the info, I had never heard that expression before. where did this happen?

>The result - absolute chaos in no time flat. It was a recognition that we
>actually ran things and that our creativity was a necessary component of
>the value creating process. From your argument it would seem that the
>changes since then mean that capital has recognised this and incorporated
>it into the 'social' that you talk of.

yes, the changes in capital command are the product of things like what you describe there, but there isn't enough discussion yet of the multiple subversions at work both in the last 40 years and today, -or is there?-
I think that outside of our immediate experience we learn of them by reflection, a posteriori, when analysing capital, which always lags behind. have we got too cynical to look into this?

>I doubt that Harald would disagree but he must speak for himself. But one
>thing we ought to do intead of arguing over the idea is check what is the
>mass experience today. Surely that would validate the idea more than a
>slagging match?
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>Gra

I agree, this is what I am interested in. I admit that ideas help me to make sense of experience, that in its inevitable particularily cannot have all the answer, but I don't think they're of much use as bricks.
to be honest, I am not as pessimistic about anti-work activities and experiences today. they are inevitably more clandestine and less 'organised', one might say they don't take a directly political form, they might be more individualised, but they're still pervasive. don't you think?


Arianna





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