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Re: AUT: Re: [Fwd: <nettime> Toni Negri: Social Struggles in Italy - Creating a new Left in Italy]
- Subject: Re: AUT: Re: [Fwd: <nettime> Toni Negri: Social Struggles in Italy - Creating a new Left in Italy]
- From: "Dave Graham" <davgraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 12:03:28 +0100
> Hi Harald,
SNIP
> >Is this really generally true, apart from it can be said to *always*
> >have been partially true. "Social cooperation" to a large extent
> >lrearned outside of wage work always was important within a
> >factory setting, for instance, and "independently of its formal
> >recognition hence retribution." Without this production would
> >have broken down, that is also why direct actions through "work-
> >to-rule" could be so effective.
>
> ? What's work-to-rule? - is it like 'arbeit macht frei'?
>
SNIP>
>
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>
Arianna please don't berate Harald [at least so quickly into this]
The fact that you don't recognise 'work to rule' is an indication to me
that we have a 'generation gap' which may account for some of the non
communication here.
I would guess that HArald and I are from the same generation and that you
are younger. A work to rule was an extremely effective weapon from the 60s
and 70s. In effect we did exactly as we were ordered to by our bosses
/managers.
The result - absolute chaos in no time flat. It was a recognition that we
actually ran things and that our creativity was a necessary component of
the value creating process. From your argument it would seem that the
changes since then mean that capital has recognised this and incorporated
it into the 'social' that you talk of.
I doubt that Harald would disagree but he must speak for himself. But one
thing we ought to do intead of arguing over the idea is check what is the
mass experience today. Surely that would validate the idea more than a
slagging match?
Gra
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Dave Graham
<davgraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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