Re: re AUT: Seeking info on Negri and Fortunadi

["cwright" <cwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Steve,

I quite literally meant "Stalinoid", not "Stalinist".  The latter means a
direct appropriation of Stalin and Stalinism historically, whereas the
latter for me means a kind of functioning and politics one might find in
Stalinist parties, including People's Front kind of stuff and Eurocommunist
stuff, as well as tendencies critical of Stalinism but not of Leninism, who
function in a "Stalinoid" manner, such as Trotskyists.

Of course, no one else in the universe prolly made the distinctions I was,
so you are right to take it that way.  Quasi-Stalinism vs. Stalinism, I
suppose.

Cheers,
Chris

ps I actually thought they had gone off from the 'right' of the CP, into
social democratic territory.  This would be a more serious error on my part
if I am wrong, but you seem to confirm that they went into a kind of Labour
Party direction.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Wright" <pmargin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: re AUT: Seeking info on Negri and Fortunadi


> thanks Alessandro!
>
> cwright wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the stuff on Negri, all!  Much appreciated.
> >
> > Its funny that Sanguinetti, Debord's old Italian colleague, was
convinced
> > from the beginning that not only were the crimes alleged to people like
> > Negri not perpetrated by them, but by the state and that the Red
Brigades
> > were heavily infiltrated if not outright controlled by the police.  Is
> > Sanguinetti taking the argument too far?
>
> Sanguinetti's argument has always struck me as wrong-headed.
>
> Prompted by your questions, yesterday I had a look around the WWW with
> Google for some references, and found, amongst other things, the
> transcripts from 2000 of Piperno and Pace's appearance before an Italian
> parliamentary commission into the Moro killing.
>
> They are quite long and entertaining to read, and part of the argument
> by Pace is precisely against the notion that the BR were run by a
> section of the state.
>
> Tthe URL I found was
http://www.misteriditalia.com/casomoro/audizioni/audizioni.htm
>
> Now, this isn't the parliamentary site, so it's possible the transcripts
> have been tampered with, but my gut feeling says not. And I think the
> originals are online elsewhere if others want to check.
>
> It also seems that there is something to Abse's accusation that Pace
> briefly flirted with the BR in late 1977.
>
> Finally, Chris I don't think it's accurate call Rifondazione stalinist.
> It may have all sorts of faults - from my point of view, it's a party,
> so that's a bad start in any case - but today it seems more like a
> classic interwar centrist party like the SAPD, PSOE etc, with lots of
> 'movementists' and all sorts of trotskyist (open) entrists ...
>
> Steve
>
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