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Re: AUT: Re: Very few libertarian marxist analyses of fascism....
- Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Very few libertarian marxist analyses of fascism....
- From: kersplebedeb <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:14:29 -0400
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i have uploaded J. Sakai`s recent piece "The Shock of Recognition:
Looking at Hamerquist's Fascism & Anti-Fascism". Amongst other things,
this essay looks at the class base of fascism, both historically and at
the present time. Thought it might be of interest!
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/books/fascism/shock.html
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> cwright wrote:
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>>Michael,
>>
>>Actually, there is work by Johannes Agnoli, although little in English, such
>>as Fascism Without Revision among other books and articles (in Common Sense
>>I think, or is that the Bologna piece?). Economy and Class Structure of
>>German Fascism by Alfred Sohn-Rethel, who is not exactly an autonomist but
>>is considered generally a libertarian Marxist. The Situationist
>>International (through Debord's Society of the Spectacle) established an
>>analysis of fascism and Stalinism as what they called 'concentrated
>>spectacle'. Marxist-humanism has an analysis of fascism connected to their
>>idea of 'the epoch of state capitalism' (I think that is the term). "The
>>struggle against Fascism begins with the struggle against Bolshevism" by
>>Otto Rhle gives some of the Council communist analysis from 1939. On
>>Fascism: A Note on Johannes Agnoli's Contribution by Werner Bonefeld gives
>>the English reader some idea of Agnoli's
>>wor
>>k(http://www.rcci.net/globalizacion/2001/fg206.htm) Also an article by
>>Sergio Bologna, "Nazism and The Working Class" at
>>http://www.emery.archive.mcmail.com/public_html/sergio_bologna/nazism.html
>>Of course, check Harry Cleaver's archive too.
>>
>>For anarchism, see "The Failed Workers Councils and the Rise of Italian
>>Fascism", Rudolf Rockers' The Tragedy of Spain, Daniel Guerrin's stuff
>>(Fascism and Big Business; The Brown Plague.) I am sure there is quite a
>>bit more, of course.
>>
>>THE COUNCIL 'COMMUNISTS BETWEEN THE NEW DEAL AND FASCISM by Gabriella M.
>>Bonacchi has some interestng stuff.
>>
>>That's most of what I know.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Chris
>>"In a world which really is topsy-turvy, the true is a moment of the
>>false." - Debord
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Michael Handelman" <mhandelman1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:43 PM
>>Subject: AUT: Very few libertarian marxist analyses of fascism....
>>
>>
>>>With the exception of Gilles Dauve
>>>(Fascism/Anti-Fascism), there is very little
>>>libertarian marxist work, that I know of, analyzing
>>>fascism.
>>>
>>>I'm reading "International Fascism: Theories, Causes,
>>>and the New Consensus". And the marxists they do put
>>>in, come from various authoritarian versions of
>>>marxism: Stalinist (Comintern), Trotskyist (Trotsky),
>>>a guy who roots his theory in Thalheimer, and
>>>structural marxists (Poulantza).
>>>
>>>These authoritarian marxists set up a useful strawman,
>>>for the liberal academics, that dominate this book.
>>>Why is there such little libertarian marxist analysis
>>>of fascism?
>>>
>>>__________________________________________________
>>>Do You Yahoo!?
>>>Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
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i have uploaded J. Sakai`s recent piece "The Shock of Recognition: Looking
at Hamerquist's Fascism & Anti-Fascism". Amongst other things, this essay
looks at the class base of fascism, both historically and at the present
time. Thought it might be of interest!<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/books/fascism/shock.html">http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/books/fascism/shock.html</a>
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cwright wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Michael,<br><br>Actually, there is work by Johannes Agnoli, although little in English, such<br>as Fascism Without Revision among other books and articles (in Common Sense<br>I think, or is that the Bologna piece?). Economy and Class Structure of<br>German Fascism by Alfred Sohn-Rethel, who is not exactly an autonomist but<br>is considered generally a libertarian Marxist. The Situationist<br>International (through Debord's Society of the Spectacle) established an<br>analysis of fascism and Stalinism as what they called 'concentrated<br>spectacle'. Marxist-humanism has an analysis of fascism connected to their<br>idea of 'the epoch of state capitalism' (I think that is the term). "The<br>struggle against Fascism begins with the struggle against Bolshevism" by<br>Otto Rhle gives some of the Council communist analysis from 1939. On<br>Fascism: A Note on Johannes Agnoli's Contribution by Werner Bonefeld gives<br>the English reader some idea of Agnoli's<br>w
or<br>k(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.rcci.net/globalizacion/2001/fg206.htm">http://www.rcci.net/globalizacion/2001/fg206.htm</a>) Also an article by<br>Sergio Bologna, "Nazism and The Working Class" at<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.emery.archive.mcmail.com/public_html/sergio_bologna/nazism.html">http://www.emery.archive.mcmail.com/public_html/sergio_bologna/nazism.html</a><br>Of course, check Harry Cleaver's archive too.<br><br>For anarchism, see "The Failed Workers Councils and the Rise of Italian<br>Fascism", Rudolf Rockers' The Tragedy of Spain, Daniel Guerrin's stuff<br>(Fascism and Big Business; The Brown Plague.) I am sure there is quite a<br>bit more, of course.<br><br>THE COUNCIL 'COMMUNISTS BETWEEN THE NEW DEAL AND FASCISM by Gabriella M.<br>Bonacchi has some interestng stuff.<br><br>That's most of what I know.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Chris<br>"In a world which really is topsy-turvy, the true is a moment of the<br>false." - Deb
ord<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Michael Handelman" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mhandelman1@xxxxxxxxx"><mhandelman1@xxxxxxxxx></a><br>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"><aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx></a><br>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:43 PM<br>Subject: AUT: Very few libertarian marxist analyses of fascism....<br><br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">With the exception of Gilles Dauve<br>(Fascism/Anti-Fascism), there is very little<br>libertarian marxist work, that I know of, analyzing<br>fascism.<br><br>I'm reading "International Fascism: Theories, Causes,<br>and the New Consensus". And the marxists they do put<br>in, come from various authoritarian versions of<br>marxism: Stalinist (Comintern), Trotskyist (Trotsky),<br>a guy who roots his theory in Thalheimer, and<br>structural marxists (Poulantza).<br><br>These authoritarian marxists set up a useful strawman,<br>for the liberal academics, that dominate this book.<br>Why is there such little libertarian marxist analysis<br>of fascism?<br><br>__________________________________________________<br>Do You Yahoo!?<br>Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://health.yahoo.com">http://health.yahoo.com</a><br><br><br> --- from list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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