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Re: AUT: Re: Very few libertarian marxist analyses of fascism....
- Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Very few libertarian marxist analyses of fascism....
- From: kersplebedeb <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 23:56:08 -0400
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Although i am not sure if it would or would not fit within the broad
heading "libertarian marxist", i will soon be uploading a piece by J.
Sakai examining the question of fascism and anti-fascism. Will let you
all know when its up!
-k
cwright wrote:
>Michael,
>
>Actually, there is work by Johannes Agnoli, although little in English, such
>as Fascism Without Revision among other books and articles (in Common Sense
>I think, or is that the Bologna piece?). Economy and Class Structure of
>German Fascism by Alfred Sohn-Rethel, who is not exactly an autonomist but
>is considered generally a libertarian Marxist. The Situationist
>International (through Debord's Society of the Spectacle) established an
>analysis of fascism and Stalinism as what they called 'concentrated
>spectacle'. Marxist-humanism has an analysis of fascism connected to their
>idea of 'the epoch of state capitalism' (I think that is the term). "The
>struggle against Fascism begins with the struggle against Bolshevism" by
>Otto Rhle gives some of the Council communist analysis from 1939. On
>Fascism: A Note on Johannes Agnoli's Contribution by Werner Bonefeld gives
>the English reader some idea of Agnoli's
>work(http://www.rcci.net/globalizacion/2001/fg206.htm) Also an article by
>Sergio Bologna, "Nazism and The Working Class" at
>http://www.emery.archive.mcmail.com/public_html/sergio_bologna/nazism.html
>Of course, check Harry Cleaver's archive too.
>
>For anarchism, see "The Failed Workers Councils and the Rise of Italian
>Fascism", Rudolf Rockers' The Tragedy of Spain, Daniel Guerrin's stuff
>(Fascism and Big Business; The Brown Plague.) I am sure there is quite a
>bit more, of course.
>
>THE COUNCIL 'COMMUNISTS BETWEEN THE NEW DEAL AND FASCISM by Gabriella M.
>Bonacchi has some interestng stuff.
>
>That's most of what I know.
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>"In a world which really is topsy-turvy, the true is a moment of the
>false." - Debord
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Handelman" <mhandelman1@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:43 PM
>Subject: AUT: Very few libertarian marxist analyses of fascism....
>
>
>>With the exception of Gilles Dauve
>>(Fascism/Anti-Fascism), there is very little
>>libertarian marxist work, that I know of, analyzing
>>fascism.
>>
>>I'm reading "International Fascism: Theories, Causes,
>>and the New Consensus". And the marxists they do put
>>in, come from various authoritarian versions of
>>marxism: Stalinist (Comintern), Trotskyist (Trotsky),
>>a guy who roots his theory in Thalheimer, and
>>structural marxists (Poulantza).
>>
>>These authoritarian marxists set up a useful strawman,
>>for the liberal academics, that dominate this book.
>>Why is there such little libertarian marxist analysis
>>of fascism?
>>
>>__________________________________________________
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>>Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
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Although i am not sure if it would or would not fit within the broad heading
"libertarian marxist", i will soon be uploading a piece by J. Sakai examining
the question of fascism and anti-fascism. Will let you all know when its
up!<br>
-k <br>
<br>
cwright wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Michael,<br><br>Actually, there is work by Johannes Agnoli, although little in English, such<br>as Fascism Without Revision among other books and articles (in Common Sense<br>I think, or is that the Bologna piece?). Economy and Class Structure of<br>German Fascism by Alfred Sohn-Rethel, who is not exactly an autonomist but<br>is considered generally a libertarian Marxist. The Situationist<br>International (through Debord's Society of the Spectacle) established an<br>analysis of fascism and Stalinism as what they called 'concentrated<br>spectacle'. Marxist-humanism has an analysis of fascism connected to their<br>idea of 'the epoch of state capitalism' (I think that is the term). "The<br>struggle against Fascism begins with the struggle against Bolshevism" by<br>Otto Rhle gives some of the Council communist analysis from 1939. On<br>Fascism: A Note on Johannes Agnoli's Contribution by Werner Bonefeld gives<br>the English reader some idea of Agnoli's<br>wor
k(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.rcci.net/globalizacion/2001/fg206.htm">http://www.rcci.net/globalizacion/2001/fg206.htm</a>) Also an article by<br>Sergio Bologna, "Nazism and The Working Class" at<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.emery.archive.mcmail.com/public_html/sergio_bologna/nazism.html">http://www.emery.archive.mcmail.com/public_html/sergio_bologna/nazism.html</a><br>Of course, check Harry Cleaver's archive too.<br><br>For anarchism, see "The Failed Workers Councils and the Rise of Italian<br>Fascism", Rudolf Rockers' The Tragedy of Spain, Daniel Guerrin's stuff<br>(Fascism and Big Business; The Brown Plague.) I am sure there is quite a<br>bit more, of course.<br><br>THE COUNCIL 'COMMUNISTS BETWEEN THE NEW DEAL AND FASCISM by Gabriella M.<br>Bonacchi has some interestng stuff.<br><br>That's most of what I know.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Chris<br>"In a world which really is topsy-turvy, the true is a moment of the<br>false." - Debord<br
>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Michael Handelman" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mhandelman1@xxxxxxxxx"><mhandelman1@xxxxxxxxx></a><br>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"><aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx></a><br>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:43 PM<br>Subject: AUT: Very few libertarian marxist analyses of fascism....<br><br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">With the exception of Gilles Dauve<br>(Fascism/Anti-Fascism), there is very little<br>libertarian marxist work, that I know of, analyzing<br>fascism.<br><br>I'm reading "International Fascism: Theories, Causes,<br>and the New Consensus". And the marxists they do put<br>in, come from various authoritarian versions of<br>marxism: Stalinist (Comintern), Trotskyist (Trotsky),<br>a guy who roots his theory in Thalheimer, and<br>structural marxists (Poulantza).<br><br>These authoritarian marxists set up a useful strawman,<br>for the liberal academics, that dominate this book.<br>Why is there such little libertarian marxist analysis<br>of fascism?<br><br>__________________________________________________<br>Do You Yahoo!?<br>Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://health.yahoo.com">http://health.yahoo.com</a><br><br><br> --- from list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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