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Re: AUT: Fascism
- Subject: Re: AUT: Fascism
- From: "Peter Jovanovic" <peterzoran@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:03:33 +1100
hi all
I broadly agree with Floyce's response to Tahir on fascism but i have a bit
to say on the subject myself.
fascism to me means a violent anti-proletarian movement outside of the
normal channels of bourgeois rule. the obvious examples being Italian
fascism and German Nazism which were both responses to mass proletarian
struggles. as a form of government i don't think fascism is that different
to other forms of capitalist rule such as Stalinism or military
dictatorship.
>One last point: I don't think that fascism will disappear within a
>capitalist order. It just ebbs and flows. The significance of this:
>democratic anti-fascist movements are futile in the the longer view of
>things; they just preserve the social order which will bring back fascism
>again at some later stages and in some other places.
if my definition is correct then fascism while not disappearing has never
reappeared fully fledged either. sure there are plenty of violent 'Nazi' or
'fascist' groups but they have little support from the bourgeoisie. they
could only get that support if proletarian revolts make normal rule
impossible.
Dauve/Barrot in one of his pieces on fascism claims that fascism has been
surpassed by better methods of integrating the proletariat into capitalism.
cheers
peter
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- Thread context:
- Re: AUT: Marxist explanations of sexual violence, (continued)
- AUT: Fascism,
Tahir Wood Wed 20 Feb 2002, 08:27 GMT
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: AUT: Fascism,
Floyce White Wed 20 Feb 2002, 23:07 GMT
- Re: AUT: Fascism,
Peter Jovanovic Thu 21 Feb 2002, 06:03 GMT
- Re: AUT: Fascism,
cwright Thu 21 Feb 2002, 07:03 GMT
- Re: AUT: Fascism,
Tahir Wood Thu 21 Feb 2002, 09:57 GMT
- Re: AUT: Fascism,
Tahir Wood Thu 21 Feb 2002, 10:11 GMT
- Re: AUT: Fascism,
commie00 Thu 21 Feb 2002, 10:59 GMT
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