AUT: Re: SPGB's parliamentary cretinism

["Chris Wright" <cwright@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ah, but exactly what most of the people on this list disagree with is the
idea of taking over the state.  That assumes the state is a neutral
instrument that can be wielded by the working class.  The state is as much a
social relation as capital is, a specific product of the capital-labor
relation which has no existence separate from capitalist exploitation.  as
such, taking over the state equals some statist form of capitalism, not
communism, and logically leads to counterrevolution.

My two bits,
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart Watkins" <stuart_pauluk@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <aut-op-sy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:41 AM
Subject: AUT: SPGB's parliamentary cretinism


> Hello all, esp Neil,
>
> Although it would be true to say that some/many
> members of the SPGB have taken the view that socialism
> will come "through parliament" ie a majority of MPs,
> passing legislation, etc, the organisation itself is
> only committed (to quote its declaration of
> principles) to organising consciously and politically
> for the conquest of the powers of government.
>
> I tend to agree that this could just as well be
> achieved through soviets, etc. It's just a practical
> question, depending on circumstances, not one of
> principle.
>
> Comradely,
> Stuart
>
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