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Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left
- Subject: Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left
- From: Ilan Shalif <gshalif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:54:37 +0200
Hi people.
fabian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >Hi People
> >Leutha Blissett jumped to fast conclusion...
> >It was betwee the age 15 to 17 and 1/2.... 46 years ago ('-)
> >Ilan
> >
> >fabian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >> Ilan Shalif said:
> >>
> >> >For sure. I my self was orthodox Leninist for a while.
> >>
> >> Leutha Blissett
>
> I didn't really jump to any conclusions, I just thought it might be
> interesting to hear more about your illustrious past. i.e did you leave
> because of how the the events unfolded in '56 (Hungary, Egypt etc.)
I was a disciple of the lenino-Zionist version of youth movement
of Zionist leninist stalinist commune movement.
At about age 17 when I joined the commune and sent to a few
months seminar of activists, I encounter Mao writings and
found him more to my taste.
Only ten years later I dropped all elitist, vanguardist party politics
when I joined the Israeli libertarian communist organization
"Matspen". And was expelled for this from the commune two years later.
So I am already 33 years on this road... just 5 years
ago discovered that there are some anarchist trends which
are also libertarian communists.
> How did
> these macro-political events intermesh with the micro-political aspects of
> sect life? Did a group of you break from orthodox Leninism together in
> order to continue political activity, or was this break for you an isolated
> act?
The Matspen collective was started 1962 after the famous 20th congress
USSR by people thrown out of the CP for asking too many questions.
> Perhaps your experiences might shed some light on what is happening in the
> post-Trotskyist scene - or are the phenomena quite different?
I had some experiance with the Lambartists and 4 international Trotskists
who used entrism and tried to overtake our organization that had
a good name in Israel and the world as the only real anti Zionist
organization in Israel.
Ilan
EMAC (East Mediterranean Anarchist Collective in construction)
http://www.shalif.com/psychology/
http://www.shalif.com/anarchy/
Tel-Aviv 61132 ISRAEL (Occupied Palestain)
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- Thread context:
- Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left, (continued)
- Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Tue 18 Jul 2000, 23:35 GMT
- Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left,
Ilan Shalif Wed 19 Jul 2000, 07:27 GMT
- Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left,
Ilan Shalif Wed 19 Jul 2000, 07:33 GMT
- Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Thu 20 Jul 2000, 18:40 GMT
- Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left,
Ilan Shalif Sun 23 Jul 2000, 20:54 GMT
- Re: AUT: people with a Trotskyist background,
Steve Wright Tue 18 Jul 2000, 11:02 GMT
- SV: <alter-ee> Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left libertarianssupporting "unity" with Leninists/Trotskists,
Harri Kulju Erin Winslow Tue 18 Jul 2000, 10:56 GMT
- AUT: Autonomists on situationist theory?,
Ragnar Myklebust Tue 18 Jul 2000, 10:20 GMT
- Re: AUT: (en) A call for anarchists and other left libertarians,
Peter van Heusden Tue 18 Jul 2000, 09:00 GMT
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