Re: AUT: Anarchism & Conflicts

[guy debord <commie00@xxxxxxxxx>]

> What the"leaders" do does not neccesarily make the
> union
> counterrevolutionary, becauee the rank and file was
> revolutionary.

when an organization becomes hierarchical, it becomes
all about the leaders... hell, a large chunk of the
rank-and-file rejected cnt policy after a while...
esp. after policy quit having anything to do with
them. this is one of the many reasons that the friends
of durruti came into existance. the biggist problem
they had tho was that even tho they could see what the
union, and the fai, were becoming, they couldn't let
go of it because (i believe) in many ways the
organizations became the revolution in spain... and
once this happened, the revolution was lost.

> The italian fascists were origionaly SOCIALISTS, not
> syndicalists.

historically, pure syndicalists were socialists...
sometimes died in the wool sp'ers. or like the de
leonists in the us. it was their developing concept of
direct democracy that attracted the anarchists and
left communists, initially. etc. etc.

my point: the union which went over to the fascists,
if i'm not mistaken, was syndicalist.

> As for the CGT of france.. the same thing happened
> with the major union in
> South Africa.. it started out syndicalist but
> Marxists took it over.
> Entryist tactics sometimes do this.

again. syndicalism was, i'm pretty sure, initially
dreamt up by marxists.

> There is nothing inherently reactionary in
> syndicalism. However, the
> strategy you support certainly hasnt worked.

nothing has, or we prolly wouldn't be here talking
about it. and that's part of the reason i'm on this
list... anarchism failed, marxism failed, all of their
varients have failed... but at the same time, these
were not failures because they provide us with
lessons... and any new theoretical behaviour is going
to require us to have learned all of the lessons of
"both sides" (marxism and anarchism), positive and
negative.

as for anything being inherently reactionary in
syndicalism... that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying
that unions are reformist by nature, and that this
reformism has led them into being nothing but
aclimatizing tools.

guy
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