Re: AUT: Re: Marxism not worth defending

[fabian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

>On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 fabian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>Marx's support for the North and indeed the racist Abe Lincoln shows a
>>complete failure by him to think outside a euro-entric framework. He never
>>took up the issue of the self-emancipation of the slaves and their
>>attempts to seize control of the planations which were suppressed by the
>>union forces. He never discusses the reconstruction in the South, which
>>included having governements with working class people (i.e. ex-slaves) in
>>them. He never discussed the full ramifications of the complex political
>>process involving both the Northern Army of occupation, the freedmen, the
>>ex-slave owners, carpet-baggers and poor whites . . .
>
>Had Marx took up those issues, he would have been an anarchist.

Why? Which anarchists have taken up those issues? I would like to read
their analyses. Where can I read their material?

[snip]

>>Jamal wrote:
>>
>>>There was a problem a few years ago with anarchism drifting too far
>>>towards postmodernism and away from class struggle.  This problems seems
>>>to have now been resolved as all anarchists recognize capitalism as the
>>>enemy, it's just that some place different priority on fighting it.


I wrote
>>This is good news indeed! What happened to those anarchists who thought
>>the class struggle anarchism <<outdated>>?

Jamal wrote
>People like Anarchy magazine and the anarchy-list started talking about
>class struggle again, basicaly.  As for the people who thought class
>struggle was outdated, well, they either changed their minds or became
>something other than anarchists.
>
>The only "anarchists" who dont like class struggle now are
>anarcho-capitalists, who arnt anarchists at all, but corporate fascists.
>(Neoliberals)

Before I crack out the champagne, could we have a bit of evidence for this.

I checked out a couple of websites:

http://www3.mistral.co.uk/blackcat/albnawake/albnindex.html

http://www.angelfire.com/ak3/anarch/index.html

This latter is the site of Jonothon Boulter who is organising the
<<Anarchist Heretics Fair Beyond Left and Right

In answer to Michael Pugliese:
"The Anarchist Heretics Fair is a one day decadent festival of outcasts,
outsiders and rejects from the mainstream contemporary anarchist movement
including neo-medievalists, Goths, free spirits, regionalists,
libertarians, alternative greens, gays, conspiracy theorists, primitivists
etc.

Discover the unknown and alternative side to anarchy marginalised by the
orthodox anarchist left, anarcho-monarchists, surrealists, artists,
painters poets, musicians and neo-pagans, Druids, odinists, folk
autonomists and the hermeticist anarchist underground.

groups and organisations confirmed so far:
Oriflamme, the Anarchic Movement, Albion Awake!, Alternative Green, The
Anarchist Nihilist Accords, the Sexiual freedom Collective, the Mercia
Movement, the Libertarian Alliance."

>From flyer inserted in Alternative Green #22, Winter 2000

Perhaps Jamal could clarify what is exactly going on. Call me an
empiricist, but it would appear that the facts are at odds with what Jamal
is saying.

Leutha Blissett




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