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AUT: Negri and Derrida
- Subject: AUT: Negri and Derrida
- From: Alvaro Reyes <areyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:45:46 -0500 (EST)
Shawn,
I would respond to your post more fully but I find your
argumentation style dismissive and rather condescending. So I will limit
myself to the following remarks.
Shawn says:
1)If your convinced that this approach to justice is "theological" and,
thus "reactionary," then that's a problem, but we might as well respond
to the right problem.
2)The "hauntology" that Derrida proposes still depends on an ontological
work, part of "the work of mourning" which has become central to Derrida's
"project" (and it would probably be worth taking the time to review what
Derrida says about "the project" in _Specters..._).
Alvaro says: I imply that you are insinuating that I have not "reviewed"
what Derrida says in Specters? That's really funny the only person who
has been careful enough to quote Derrida page numbers and all and
I am now the one
who has not read him. Besides the cynical humor in this and the other
similarly dismissive comments you make throughout your post, I would
suggest to you that it does not further a conversation to suggest that a
person one disagrees with is simply unaware of the question at hand.
So lets hear from différance: "Despite appearances what we are saying is
not simply anti-statist; in given limited conditions, the Super-State,
which might be an international institution, may always be able to limit
the appropriations and the violence of certain private socio-economic
forces. But without necessarily subscribing to the whole Marxist
discourse on the Stateand its appropriation by a dominant classand on the
other hand without suspecting the juridical idea itself." Derrida,
Specters of Marx, pg. 84-85
Now lets hear from difference: "radical alterity is not a matter of
calling for the intervention of a third power <i.e. the State or
"Supra-state> (a completely illusory notion of reformism), but rather a
matter of affirming one type of power over another: the constituent power
of the multitude against the constituted power of the State...The powerful
subject that poses a total critique of the juridical State is the
constituent subject that, on the plane of separation, poses a radical and
effective alternative." Hardt and Negri, Labor of Dionysus, pg. 307
Note: that which is surrounded by < and > are my own comments, but that
which is surrounded by (and) are from the text.
Alvaro says: Hmm? Seems like radically different "positions" on the State
and the juridical to me?
Somebody says: No, Alvaro you misunderstand Derrida because if you had
read and understood him you would understand there is no "choice," you
would have to agree with him!
Alvaro says: Goodbye.
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- Thread context:
- Re: AUT: Anarchism & Conflicts, (continued)
- AUT: PANNEKOEK ON THE REICHSTAG FIRE,
cansv Mon 20 Dec 1999, 16:07 GMT
- AUT: Negri and Derrida,
Alvaro Reyes Mon 20 Dec 1999, 15:45 GMT
- AUT: The Christmas Truce (fwd),
Harry M. Cleaver Mon 20 Dec 1999, 15:43 GMT
- AUT: Defending Anarchism,
Jamal Hannah Mon 20 Dec 1999, 05:49 GMT
- AUT: Re: the anarchism dispute,
Harald Beyer-Arnesen Mon 20 Dec 1999, 02:46 GMT
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