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AUT: Re: Re: The IRA and Peace

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Hi Marc

Marc:One might
have thought that a move away from murderous armed struggle, in pursuit=20
of the forced incorporation of one million British protestants in a
united Ireland, would be welcomed.=20

George: Your above comment contains the suggestion that all armed =
struggle is murderous. The use of the word "murderous" may be, in some =
respects a woolly term. On the other hand it can carry an abstract =
morality within it that suggests, in this case, that all armed struggle =
involving killing is absolutely wrong. Your use of the phrase "murderous =
armed struggle" would seem to suggest that all armed struggle is =
murderous and thereby morally wrong. I must say that I cannot share such =
moral abstractions or prescriptions. Armed struggle can be a valid and =
necessary form of class struggle.

Furthermore you entirely misunderstand the entire character of Karl's =
valuable piece on the IRA. He never suggested  that only a few people =
are anti-imperialist. He never suggested that the "Catholic" masses were =
pro-imperialist when they successfully defended themselves in the Derry =
against the Loyalist attack on them. He never suggested that the working =
class in Russia was pro-imperialist when it confronted the state on the =
streets in 1017. He never suggested that they were pro-imperialist when =
they formed factory committees and Soviets. Indeed in these situations =
they were clearly anti-imperialist.

Pleas Marc dont distort what Karl wrote. Be serious!

Warm regards
George Pennefather

Be free to check out our Communist Think-Tank Website:
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~beprepared

Warm regards
George Pennefather

Be free to check out our Communist Think-Tank Website:
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~beprepared

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<DIV align=3Djustify>Hi Marc</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>Marc:One might<BR>have thought that a move away =
from=20
murderous armed struggle, in pursuit <BR>of the forced incorporation of =
one=20
million British protestants in a<BR>united Ireland, would be welcomed. =
</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>George: Your above comment contains the suggestion =
that all=20
armed struggle is murderous. The use of the word "murderous" may be, in =
some=20
respects a woolly term. On the other hand it can carry an abstract =
morality=20
within it that suggests, in this case, that all armed struggle involving =
killing=20
is absolutely wrong. Your use of the phrase "murderous armed struggle" =
would=20
seem to suggest that all armed struggle is murderous and thereby morally =
wrong.=20
I must say that I cannot share such moral abstractions or prescriptions. =
Armed=20
struggle can be a valid and necessary form of class struggle.</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>Furthermore you entirely misunderstand the entire =
character=20
of Karl's valuable piece on the IRA. He never suggested&nbsp; that only =
a few=20
people are anti-imperialist. He never suggested that the "Catholic" =
masses were=20
pro-imperialist when they successfully defended themselves in the Derry =
against=20
the Loyalist attack on them. He never suggested that the working class =
in Russia=20
was pro-imperialist when it confronted the state on the streets in 1017. =
He=20
never suggested that they were pro-imperialist when they formed factory=20
committees and Soviets. Indeed in these situations they were clearly=20
anti-imperialist.</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>Pleas Marc dont distort what Karl wrote. Be =
serious!</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>Warm regards<BR>George Pennefather</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>Be free to check out our Communist Think-Tank =
Website:<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://homepage.tinet.ie/~beprepared";>http://homepage.tinet.ie/~b=
eprepared</A></DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>Warm regards<BR>George Pennefather</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV align=3Djustify>Be free to check out our Communist Think-Tank =
Website:<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://homepage.tinet.ie/~beprepared";>http://homepage.tinet.ie/~b=
eprepared</A></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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