Re: AUT: more on Zapatismo

[Massimo De Angelis <M.Deangelis@xxxxxxxxx>]

Geoff, thanks (so to say) for restating a known  position. I
advanced an argument which was not previously discussed and
have informed of the political meaning of the novelty of Zapatistas
stuff for many of us in the UK. Your rebuff  ignores my argument,
instead of building (even critically) on it and
restates a position.  Definitively, there is nothing new in this
proceeding. As you are not impressed by the new, I am not
impressed by this old, claustrophobic and cheaply cynical way of
thinking .There you have it,  statement against statement,
rebuff against reguff, a practice that leads us nowhere. Perhaps I
also can  state,  to borrow from your methodology which in turns
borrows from Paul's statement,  that the  kind of arguments you use
aim at  finding  a niche for a ghettoising dead political culture
within a left in diserray. A statement is a statement. Rebuff against
rebuff. No point to continue a discussion on these terms.


Massimo



> Massimo --
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> 	I don't share your ethusiasm for novelty. Every movement based around
> guerrillas that has gained support from the left in the US and Europe was
> new at one time new, and was hailed as a break with the old (at least,
> that's my impression from  many dusty books by the new leftists of the
> 1960s). Paul has, I think accurately, identified what is new about the Zaps
> -- they aren't seeking to conquer the state as much as to find a niche
> within the state that is in the process of recomposition as a result of the
> obsolesence of the PRI's ownership of state assets.     	
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> Geoff
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