Re: AUT: Source of quotation

["Harry M. Cleaver" <hmcleave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Folks: When I found the quote, I contacted the author of the article in
which it appeared for the original source. That person promised to find it
for me but never has. Either it's somewhere out there in print, or its a
nice piece of indigenous urban folklore. The quality of the statement and
the response it has evoked suggests that ultimately it doesn't matter
where it came from, although us scholarly types will continue to ask
around.

Harry

On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Massimo De Angelis wrote:

> Zeynep, the source of this quotation was the object of some
> discussion some times ago in this list. Around the mid of june I have
> asked the same question, as the quote was reported in a article by
> Harry Cleaver which appeard on an Italian Jouurnal Riff raff. Nobody
> could actually tell me the where and when of the origin of this
> quote. John Hutnyk suggested the collection "The indigenous Voice"
> edited by Roger Moody, but I could not find it there (the book though
> is a great collection).
>
> So, my answer is I don't know, although everybody seems to know
> about the existence of this great quote.
>
> Massimo
>
> PS. I will reply to the other comments soon. Thanks a lot for them.
>
>
>
> > Massimo,
> >
> > You have a quote attributed to aboriginal women in your paper. Could you
> > please clarify the source?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Zeynep
> >
> > "Thus rather than the old solidarity paradigm, a better description of the
> > way different groups and movements tend to enter in relation with one
> > another is the one provided by what an Aboriginal women said to those
> > coming to her people to offer solidarity:
> >
> > If you have come here to help me
> >
> > You are wasting your time . . .
> >
> > But if you have come because
> >
> > Your liberation is bound up with mine
> >
> > Then let us work together
> >
> > In this assertion there is at the same time the rejection of instrumental
> > support, the assertion of autonomy, and the openness to relate to others."
> >
> >
> > At 03:48 PM 11/13/97 GMT0BST, you wrote:
> > >Some time ago I sent a copy of my paper on zapatistas'
> > >internationalism but nobody could either see it or read it. You can
> > >finally find the same paper posted at this address:
> > >
> > >http://www.uel.ac.uk/pers/M.DeAngelis/zapaint2.htm
> > >
> > >Comments are welcome.
> > >
> > >Massimo
> > >
> > >
> > >
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