AUT: unions and revolution

[neil <74742.1651@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

dear bill Bartlett,

Your smokescreen  evasions to my exposure
of  once progressive , now outmoded -and now
 bourgeois state  integrated unions of the 20th cent
is disingenuous.

Just deal honestly  with my examples of the  mass
movements, economic/political , leading to the Russian soviets-
 councils of 1905 & 1917. How about the western soviets/councils  in
Germany and Austria post WW1 ? The red Turin workers
movements in Italy in 1919-20?
How about the mass struggles in France in '68
and Italy in '69?
Did  not these and other movements not show how unionist
 structure/business is reactionary in this epoch?

You just don't show you have the slightest idea why these
and other rev. struggles/movements had to face
down the unions as well as  open bourgeois -state
reaction as open enemeies who wanted to drown
the rev. workers organization in blood --and certainly
they succeeded, unfortunately for workers of the world.

Don't confuse your own  apparent shallow understanding
of workers rev. history with the concrete historical
examples i presented to try to show how the developemnt
of the capitalist exploiter  system from ascendency to outright
barbarism  helped change the nature of the EPOCH
and the UNIONS!.

Smokescreens  won't cut it Bill. Workers deserve/demand  better.
Cut the personalisms -deal with the events themselves
in the proper hisorical and social context.
Sorry to offend your Deleonist ritualisms.

neil




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