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Re: Economics of Communist Society
Graeme wrote:
>Now although I reject individual remuneration as defined above [and I am
>not impressed by the assertion that labour vouchers 'do not circulate' -
>almost anything will be used as a store of value, if peoples consumption is
>not 'free'], I do still think that we need a unit of calculation for a
>communist economy. This is because initially, at any rate we need to avoid
>the massive waste of resources which would flow from a rejection of any
>attempt to co-ordinate our activities. But this unit of calculation only
>needs to operate at an aggregate level - individual enterprise to whole
>society. That is it will tell us how much of whatever type of product, our
>present level of technology will deliver, and on that basis we can choose
>the aggregate level of consumption.
>
>Looking further ahead [or if you like from a lower stage to a higher stage
>of communism, and doing away entirely with any notion of transitional state
>and any intermediary economic forms] we know that technological development
>in a capitalist society is not neutral, but that it is a function of the
>capitalists need to re-assert their control over us. As early as possible
>therefore, we would need to make decisions on which technologies to
>dispense with for whatever reason, which we might retain and which we might
>need to develop. In the parlance of modern economists, we will be faced
>with 'opportunity costs' which may restrict present consumption for a
>projected future social gain. A single, simple unit of calculation will
>enable such a choice to become transparent. Above all it will reveal the
>unity of a fully socialised productive process, so that any centrifugal
>tendencies can be 'costed' and if required resisted. This is not an
>'automatic' process, merely a tool, whose results can be ignored if we
>wish, but the costs of such ignorance can be predicted in advance.
Having rejected the idea of *renumeration* via labour-time vouchers for
similar reasons to those expressed by a range of people on this list, I
must say that I have never thought of retaining (hopefully for only a very
short time) the use of labour-time as a measurement for "planning" in the
sense suggested by Graeme.
So I'm also curious what others think of this . . .
And Michael and Chris: you've made me intrigued enough about Vandana Shiva
to follow up your comments with some reading. Anyone else have thoughts on
this writer?
Steve
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- Thread context:
- Re: Economics of Communist Society, (continued)
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
Michael Novick Sat 10 May 1997, 18:32 GMT
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
FRANCO BARCHIESI Sun 11 May 1997, 13:49 GMT
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
LPA Mon 12 May 1997, 09:16 GMT
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
Fiocco Laura Mon 12 May 1997, 17:27 GMT
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
Steve Wright Mon 12 May 1997, 23:38 GMT
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
Chris Tue 13 May 1997, 03:50 GMT
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
Mneillft Tue 13 May 1997, 22:04 GMT
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
Michael Novick Wed 14 May 1997, 07:33 GMT
- Re: Economics of Communist Society,
LPA Wed 14 May 1997, 22:44 GMT
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