Re: [A-List] 'Rafsanjani, Mousavi Vow Support to End Unrest'

[Leighm <the.buffalo.in.the.midst@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Yoshie
> Furuhashi<critical.montages@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   
> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:14 PM,
> > Leighm<the.buffalo.in.the.midst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >     
> > > Do you consider that 'revolution'?
> > >       
> > No.  Revolution takes more than a collection of grievances, no matter
> > how justified they are.  This is a case of young people attaching
> > their just causes (aspirations for freedom) to an unjust
> > anti-democratic cause of the bourgeoisie chafing under the
> > petit-bourgeois republican regime.
> >
> > Yoshie
> >     
>
> In case it wasn't clear, I was talking about Iran, not California.
> I can't find an analogous situation in the West.
>   


Are you waiting for a perfect fit?  I see analogous "tendencies" and I 
want to cultivate them. Iran, no exception.

The "tendency" is towards 'social liberation' in relation to a given 
culture or society. Economics are a lagging indicator (snicker)... Hard 
to make a 'revolution' following the laggard.

Who the investors are, and their motives, are much more easily, and in 
my opinion with more long term social effectivness, 'dealt with' after 
the society gets a handle on, what The Tubes so aptly said,  "What do 
you want from life". Note at the top, I said: "...'social liberation' in 
relation to a given culture or society.". Not foreign ideals of what 
they want from their lives... AND their government (If they choose to 
have one.).


> The Democratic Party of Japan (which mixes economic liberalism with
> social and cultural liberalism) is a little bit like
> Mousavi/Rafsanjani, though in Japan working people have the JCP, so
> they don't need to make a choice between the DP and the LDP.
>
> Yoshie
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