Re: [A-List] Kagarlitsky-Green with NATO envy

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Nestor,

There were several analyses of Kagarlitsky posted (perhaps on this site
too, I cant remember now) on the net in the past about his connections to
western intelligence services. He even admitted it in one famous interview
in Russia but tried to explain it away.

He fooled a lot of us in the beginning (even me) with his book on Yeltsin
etc and seemed to be the voice of the real left in Russia. But then it
became clear which side he is really one and who used him to fool the left
here in the west and in Russia. I prefer to read what Zyuganov says. He
doesnt lie. But then of course, Zyuganov is not listened to because he is
the leader of the Communist Party and we don't want to listen to them, do
we? What a joke, to put this garbage on this list. If I was a conspiracy
buff I would begin to think we have been penetrated by those interested in
destroying this list by pissing off the real leftists with this stuff.
They may succeed.

Chris

> It is OBVIOUS that whoever can write "Why is [any specific country] so
> afraid of NATO expansion?" is either a fool or an enemy of the said
> specific country. Unless she or he is speaking of the NATO-founding
> countries.
>
> If this is a Leftist (Kagarl. says he is a Trotskyist!!!!!!!!) my
> grandmother was an apple tree.
>
> 2008/4/28, Sean Fischer <seanfischer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>   http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1040/42/362119.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>  Green With NATO Envy
>>
>>  04/17/2008  "How interesting!"
>>
>>  These were the words of an airport security officer as he lifted a
>> folder from my suitcase printed with the name of a conference titled,
>> "Fascism: Familiar Enemy or New Threat?" He opened the folder, hoping
>> to read its contents, but he was a bit disappointed to learn that I was
>> only using the folder to hold miscellaneous papers.
>>
>>  "What do you think -- is there really a fascist threat?" he asked me.
>>
>>  I mentioned several racially motivated killings in Russia, but that did
>> not interest him much.
>>
>>  "Sure, those things happen," he said. "But take a look at the Baltic
>> countries! They deny ethnic Russians their civil rights and close down
>> their schools. Or Ukraine," he continued. "That's even worse. They're
>> planning to join NATO. I stay up all night thinking about this."
>>
>>  After speaking with the security guard, it became clear to me that the
>> global fascist threat comes from Kiev. A few years ago, who would have
>> thought that Russians would fear subversive activity from Ukraine as
>> much as Islamic terrorists? But this is one example of how the
>> anti-Ukrainian propaganda influences Russians. And it raises the
>> question: Why is Russia so afraid of NATO expansion?
>>
>>  Russian propaganda angrily condemns NATO expansion, but it never
>> explains the specific problems or threats that could result from it.
>> Moscow reacts with insults and protests but not with clear political
>> reasoning.
>>
>>  Of course, this does not mean that NATO is a purely peace-loving and
>> democratic organization concerned exclusively with the security of its
>> member countries. The Kremlin can find valid reasons to criticize NATO,
>> but the problem is that Moscow can't offer its own principles or models
>> for providing collective security that would serve as an alternative to
>> NATO.
>>
>
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>
> Néstor Gorojovsky
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