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Re: [A-List] Kagarlitsky-Green with NATO envy

Well, Kagarlitsky continues his fake left rants and misinformation in
accord with his work for US intel in the past. I mean who is this guy
kidding? "Russia condemns...Nato expansion but it never explains
the...threats that could result from it." Does Kagarklitsky not read the
newspapers, watch CNN? Putin has given several speeches which set out
exactly the threat from Nato in detail. But Kagarlitsky, like the other
faux left right-wingers at the Moscow Times chooses to lie to his audience
and to attack Putin instead of Nato which is the real threat to Russia.
But of course he doesnt want Russians to remember what Nato did in
Yugoslavia or is doing in Afghanistan and elsewhere. No justfiied Russian
fear of Nato is put down to "jealousy"!

The man gets more stupid with everything he writes.

Chris



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> <b>Green With NATO Envy<br><br>
> </b>04/17/2008  "How interesting!" <br><br>
> These were the words of an airport security officer as he lifted a folder
> from my suitcase printed with the name of a conference titled,
> "Fascism: Familiar Enemy or New Threat?" He opened the folder,
> hoping to read its contents, but he was a bit disappointed to learn that
> I was only using the folder to hold miscellaneous papers.<br><br>
> "What do you think -- is there really a fascist threat?" he
> asked me.<br><br>
> I mentioned several racially motivated killings in Russia, but that did
> not interest him much. <br><br>
> "Sure, those things happen," he said. "But take a look at
> the Baltic countries! They deny ethnic Russians their civil rights and
> close down their schools. Or Ukraine," he continued. "That's
> even worse. They're planning to join NATO. I stay up all night thinking
> about this."<br>
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> After speaking with the security guard, it became clear to me that the
> global fascist threat comes from Kiev. A few years ago, who would have
> thought that Russians would fear subversive activity from Ukraine as much
> as Islamic terrorists? But this is one example of how the anti-Ukrainian
> propaganda influences Russians. And it raises the question: Why is Russia
> so afraid of NATO expansion?<br><br>
> Russian propaganda angrily condemns NATO expansion, but it never explains
> the specific problems or threats that could result from it. Moscow reacts
> with insults and protests but not with clear political
> reasoning.<br><br>
> Of course, this does not mean that NATO is a purely peace-loving and
> democratic organization concerned exclusively with the security of its
> member countries. The Kremlin can find valid reasons to criticize NATO,
> but the problem is that Moscow can't offer its own principles or models
> for providing collective security that would serve as an alternative to
> NATO.<br><br>
> NATO is no longer a defensive bloc, but a global police organization that
> is not subject to checks and balances. Although the alliance's stated
> mission is to defend democratic values, its actions often contradict
> these values. There are no control mechanisms preventing NATO from
> carrying out military or political decisions that contradict its own
> charter. France and Germany occasionally raise their voices and remind
> the United States that it should not forget about the existence of
> Europe. But they are allowed to express their opinion only when
> Washington asks for it. On the other hand, how often do European
> governments seek the support of their citizens before making a decision
> within the NATO framework?<br><br>
> In the modern world, international alliances and organizations
> increasingly provide member governments the opportunity to make military
> and political decisions without having to answer to their citizens for
> their actions. True, member states must gain one another's approval at
> high levels within these global organizations, but they all share the
> common goal of avoiding accountability to their own people. <br><br>
> Exactly the same kinds of ethical norms prevail among the ruling elite in
> Moscow and Kiev. If the Kremlin had sufficient resources, it would not
> hesitate to create a NATO-like organization among former Soviet
> republics. Unfortunately, Moscow doesn't have the financial resources or
> the regional influence to do this, and this is why the Kremlin is so
> jealous of the United States' powerful leadership role in NATO.<br><br>
> But every dark cloud has its silver lining. Moscow's failure to halt NATO
> expansion might eventually prompt at least a few Foreign Ministry
> officials to seek allies in the West, including those from the anti-war
> movement. Even Soviet leaders understood this. Despite their
> "totalitarian" nature, they did a better job of finding a
> common ground with the West than the current leaders. In the end, it will
> be difficult to win the sympathies of European pacifists with imperial
> rhetoric and threats to "waste the terrorists in the
> outhouse."<br><br>
> <i>Boris Kagarlitsky is the director of the Institute of Globalization
> Studies.</i> <br>
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