[A-List] Solar grand plan ?

["Charles Brown" <charlesb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>
> I'm with Shane on the money. 480 billion sounds more like an annual
> budget than a multi-decades budget. However don't count on hydrogen
as
> a storage or transmission media. Really efficient Plugin hybrids
with
> a 100+ mile electric range could reduce emissions by as much or more
> than a hydrogen car.  Pure electric cars with a ~200 mile range
could
> meet all the needs of a great many people. And in terms of future
> technology, we are a lot closer to massive improvement in battery
> technology than we are to economical hydrogen.  (Bear in mind also,
> that most hydrogen advocates support deriving hydrogen from natural
> gas or coal during the "transition.")


A hydrogen-powered vehicle (car, bus, truck, dirigible, bike, ship or
boat) is
totally infrared-blocking-emission free when the hydrogen is produced
by electrolysis driven by electricity from a wind farm.  Both fuel
cells and
batteries are dynamic technologies and both will be much more
economical
than now as soon as the economies of mass production are combined with
the improved technology.  But the starting point has to be the
investment
in wind farms, solar farms, pipelines and DC transmission lines.
Producing
hydrogen from coal or natural gas is even worse than relying on nukes.


Shane Mage

"Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and does not consent to
be called Zeus."

Herakleitos of Ephesos