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Re: [A-List] [R-G] Clash of Sexual Civilizations



Yoshie, you are selling out what we know to be at least 10% of the population of Iran for your program of lining up behind the clerics.

Normally, I truly appreciate that you do not simply state silliness about how the Mullahs are not Leninists, anarchists & what have you. That doesn't then leap to the place where what you are saying here makes sense.

Let's put this in perspective-- you are every bit as likely to find on the news or in your neighbourhood a story of a random beating including death, involving queer people as you are to hear it about targeting many of the "Asian looking" people of colour (racist fucks tend to be the biggest dumb asses and make mistakes about who is who more often than the rest of us make spelling errors). The global war on queer rights continues as we speak, and is constantly being ramped up even in the US.

But more over, without us taking some assurances to make certain that this glaring contradiction is one we are friendly yet uncompromising in trying to deal with George Soros and the Pew Centre will do so nicely.

Put another way, your whole approach seems to hint that both sides have a valid point. This dovetails nicely with even bourgeois opinion in North America, but it is reactionary and nonsensical and needs to be challenged viciously. We do not have a RIGHT to make such determinations on the question-- a movement that cannot involve everyone is going to speak for no one. Saying there can be anti-imperialist homophobic fucks is really no different than when I hear about left wing Zionists; the reason that there is no such thing as "left wing Zionism" is that there is nothing progressive about an exclusionary ideology, if the ideology excludes on the basis of what people are. And you know this. Your internal pain trying to figure out how to love the Clerics and promote queer rights are real, I'm sure. That doesn't get you a pass-- any such ideology is *always* to be questioned.

On a completely separate note, I found myself able to catch the BBC running his talk at Colombia live-- and since I do not see him as an ally but I don't want to see his regime (and by extension, population of Iran) given any further dehumanizing, I thought he handled himself quite well and was able to deal with the question of Palestine, rhetorically at least-- with dignity.

Macdonald



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