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Re: [A-List] [R-G] Clash of Sexual Civilizations
Yoshie, you are selling out what we know to be at least 10% of the
population of Iran for your program of lining up behind the clerics.
Normally, I truly appreciate that you do not simply state silliness
about how the Mullahs are not Leninists, anarchists & what have you.
That doesn't then leap to the place where what you are saying here makes
sense.
Let's put this in perspective-- you are every bit as likely to find on
the news or in your neighbourhood a story of a random beating including
death, involving queer people as you are to hear it about targeting many
of the "Asian looking" people of colour (racist fucks tend to be the
biggest dumb asses and make mistakes about who is who more often than
the rest of us make spelling errors). The global war on queer rights
continues as we speak, and is constantly being ramped up even in the US.
But more over, without us taking some assurances to make certain that
this glaring contradiction is one we are friendly yet uncompromising in
trying to deal with George Soros and the Pew Centre will do so nicely.
Put another way, your whole approach seems to hint that both sides have
a valid point. This dovetails nicely with even bourgeois opinion in
North America, but it is reactionary and nonsensical and needs to be
challenged viciously. We do not have a RIGHT to make such determinations
on the question-- a movement that cannot involve everyone is going to
speak for no one. Saying there can be anti-imperialist homophobic fucks
is really no different than when I hear about left wing Zionists; the
reason that there is no such thing as "left wing Zionism" is that there
is nothing progressive about an exclusionary ideology, if the ideology
excludes on the basis of what people are. And you know this. Your
internal pain trying to figure out how to love the Clerics and promote
queer rights are real, I'm sure. That doesn't get you a pass-- any such
ideology is *always* to be questioned.
On a completely separate note, I found myself able to catch the BBC
running his talk at Colombia live-- and since I do not see him as an
ally but I don't want to see his regime (and by extension, population of
Iran) given any further dehumanizing, I thought he handled himself quite
well and was able to deal with the question of Palestine, rhetorically
at least-- with dignity.
Macdonald
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- Re: [A-List] [R-G] Clash of Sexual Civilizations,
Macdonald Stainsby Tue 25 Sep 2007, 16:43 GMT
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Yoshie Furuhashi Tue 25 Sep 2007, 14:53 GMT
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