[A-List] Romantizing working classes - class and boundary

["Charles Brown" <cbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

MP: Classes decay  in the face of the advance of industry and there is
nothing new about this  process.

^^^^^ CB: Do you subscribe to Lenin's definition of classes ?

MP: Produce the definition.

I will explain in unmistakable terms what class means to me and this is not
the classical Marxist understanding of class as I understand the meaning of
classical American Marxism and its interpretation. As I understand matters
you
consider yourself a classical Marxist or classical American Marxist. As I
have  stated many times I do not by any stretch consider myself a classical
American  Marxists, although I am American by citizenship, citizenship
status and  culture

^^^^^^^
CB: OK you don't consider yourself a classical _American_ Marxist. Do you
subscribe to any of the classical Marxist ( not American necessarily)
fundamental positions and principles ? And do you argue from those positions
and principles in these discussions with me and others here and on Thaxis et
al. ?


"Classes are large groups of people differing from each other by the place
they occupy in a historically determined system of social production, by
their relation (in most cases fixed and formulated by law) to the means of
production, by their role in the social organisation of labour, and,
consequently, by the dimensions of the share of social wealth of which they
dispose and their mode of acquiring it". (Vladimir I. Lenin: 'A Great
Beginning: Heroism of the Workers in the Rear: 'Communist Subbotniks' in:
'Collected Works', Volume 29; Moscow; 1965; p. 421).