Re: Re: [A-List] A Chinese Marxism view: Problemsofint'l.strategyfortoday's China]

["James Daly" <james.irldaly@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Henry, the references you gave are e-mail addresses, not web
ites.  -- J.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Henry C.K. Liu" <hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "The A-List" <a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "James Daly"
<james.irldaly@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:31 PM
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [A-List] A Chinese Marxism view:
Problemsofint'l.strategyfortoday's China]
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: Subject: Re: [A-List] A Chinese Marxism view: Problems of
int'l.strategy for today's China
: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:40:33 -0500
: From: Henry C.K. Liu <hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: The A-List <a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: References: <43F5D982.6090209@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: <BAY108-F1605DB3A5D37ECF0FE516CC3F80@xxxxxxx>
: <55945.193.220.90.6.1140261338.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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: The Chinese-Vietnam conflict (not quite a war)  in 1979 was a border
: dispute between too socialist nations both of which have not totally
: shed their imperialistic characteristics. China did not do well in
that
: conflaict and the left in China was opposed to it.  The
Chinese-Soviet
: border conflict was of the same nature. But in both cases, China was
: disputing borders left over by Western imperialism thus in that
sense
: China was less imperialistic.
:
: Henry C.K. Liu
:
: bar@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
:
: >I dont see how a reply to a request by the Afghans to the USSR to
help
: >support their regime in the face of an assault by the US proxies
can be
: >construed as "imperialism." The evidence is clear the Afghan war
drained
: >the USSR and it did not benefit one whit from that war. Are you
saying
: >that any time a socialist country comes to aid of another and sends
troops
: >there that it is engaging in imperialism? Then what was the Chinese
war
: >agaisnt Vietnam in the mid 70's all about?
: >
: >Chris
: >
: >
: >
: >>What was the "imperialism" involved in Afghanistan?
: >>
: >>The Soviets neither exploited nor plundered resources. Nor did
they
: >>attempt
: >>to control the government.
: >>
: >>On the other hand, take a look at what the United States is after
there!
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>>From: "Henry C.K. Liu" <hliu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>>Reply-To: The A-List <a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>>To: The A-List <a-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>>Subject: Re: [A-List] A Chinese Marxism view: Problems
: >>>ofint'l. strategyfortoday's China
: >>>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:11:14 -0500
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>Charles Brown wrote:
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>>Henry:
: >>>>The US was also less exploitative during the Cold War with its
allies.
: >>>>
: >>>>^^^^
: >>>>CB: Well, yes, they were in a creative _destructive_ phase in
their
: >>>>relationship to their colonies.
: >>>>
: >>>>Soviets didn't seem to have to carry out big imperialist wars as
the
: >>>>U.S.
: >>>>did. This is an indirect indicator of less exploitation.
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>Yes, Charles.  That is because the Soviet imperilaist phase
started late
: >>>and came into full bloom in Afghanistan, which eventually brought
down
: >>>the
: >>>USSR.
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>Henry
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>
: >>>
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